Schumer says he will not support 7- or 10-day stopgap to avoid shutdown
Source: The Hill
09/29/25 6:24 PM ET
Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) said he would not support a weeklong or 10-day government funding measure to avoid a government shutdown on Wednesday and buy more time to negotiate with President Trump and GOP leaders.
Schumer said he felt that Mondays meeting with Trump at the White House made some progress because it gave him and House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries (N.Y.) a chance to warn Trump directly about the possibility that thousands of Americans will see their health insurance premiums soar next year.
Schumer urged Trump to press GOP leaders to add language to a seven-week continuing resolution to address the expiration of Affordable Care Act (ACA) subsidies, but he ruled out supporting a weeklong or 10-day stopgap funding measure to buy some more time. No, we have to do it now. The time is a wasting. We have to do it now. Weve delayed and delayed and delayed, he said, arguing that the extension of the Affordable Care Act subsidies cant wait.
As Martin Luther King once said, later means never, he said. They dont want to do this, the Republican leaders, because their right wing it will divide their party their right wing hates ACA altogether. But we have to get it done, he added. The way to do this, is the president, who was really listening to us, tells the Republicans to do it.
Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5527884-schumer-stopgap-shutdown/

turbinetree
(26,600 posts)and every maga senior on Medicare...........that voted for this shit show............wait and see what happens Medicare on January 1, 2026...........lets get back to the 6 states that are going to be the guinea pigs for that shit show to begin the process of privatizing Medicare for wall street and the health care companies backed by wall street greed.............JFC
lostincalifornia
(4,561 posts)applied to the ACA, which would mean millions would lose their coverage on the ACA because people could not afford the premiums without the subsidies.
ImNotGod
(1,155 posts)lostincalifornia
(4,561 posts)Skittles
(167,742 posts)yup
Irish_Dem
(75,501 posts)They will start requiring prior authorizations for some services.
This is MEDICARE.
flamingdem
(40,673 posts)Don't think they are though. Haven't read about it yet.
Irish_Dem
(75,501 posts)It could be a very big change.
flamingdem
(40,673 posts)Maybe this is the next thing to rile up the troops!
Irish_Dem
(75,501 posts)I fear Trump may start out slow and then put the whammy on Medicare.
pat_k
(11,916 posts)If I have Part A and Part B and a Supplement to cover "out of pocket" A and B costs, how could my state force me into managed care?
The only thing "managed" about my coverage is Part D, prescriptions, with formularies and pre-authorization required for some drugs.
Irish_Dem
(75,501 posts)That is what the press releases are saying.
New Jersey
Ohio
Oklahoma
Texas
Arizona
Washington
pat_k
(11,916 posts)It's not the states that are implementing this. It is the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. They are adding some pre-authorization requirements for certain services/procedures provided under Part A and Part B (currently covered without pre-authorization).
It is not Managed Care in the same sense that Medicare Advantage is Managed Care.
So, it sounds like it will actually only affect people like me who keep their original Medicare and add a supplement because they refuse to be shoved into the rapidly deteriorating Medicare Advantage Plans.
Not surprising because Republicans hate people like me. They've fucked around with Medicare Advantage to weaken that coverage, but have been unable to touch Original Medicare. I am actually wondering if people in those six states can sue. I would like to know what authority CMS has to run this "experiment." Did the Republican Congress grant it? Or is it another case of an agency doing shit it is not allowed to do? I have more research to do.
AI Summary
Here's a breakdown of the selection criteria and process:
MAC Jurisdictions: The model was assigned to four MAC jurisdictions: JH, JL, JF, and J15.
Within-MAC Comparisons: CMS selected states within the same MAC jurisdictions so they could compare the test states to other states within that same MAC.
Adequate Claims Volume: States were chosen for their sufficient volume of claims, which allows for precise estimates of the model's impact.
Existing Coverage Policies: CMS prioritized states where the administrative contractors already had coverage policies for the services targeted by the model.
Geographic Diversity: The selected states represent diverse geographic areas.
Highest Historical Claim Paid Amounts: States meeting the evaluation criteria were also selected based on the highest historical claim paid amounts.
pat_k
(11,916 posts)The authority under which this program is being implemented is Section 1115A of the Social Security Act.
Another AI summary:
It sure sounds to me like denying care that was previously covered absolutely violates the requirement of these programs to "preserve" or "improve" care.
Regarding lawsuits. It sounds like they will be coming. More from AI
mcar
(45,380 posts)I await the many Schumer critics here to offer their praise as well.
Skittles
(167,742 posts)absolutely - it will make me think maybe he learned a fucking lesson
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,034 posts)Cha
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sheshe2
(94,040 posts)Cha
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lostincalifornia
(4,561 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,034 posts)just like, if it's on the internet, it must be true!
Justice Brandeis
(308 posts)If we don't, he'll fold.
ananda
(33,385 posts)I was happy to send one I found here
a while ago.
Baitball Blogger
(50,998 posts)BumRushDaShow
(160,868 posts)But the Senate needs 60 votes to pass legislation and that means the GOP needs (D) votes and they don't have them.
The split is 53 (R)s & 45 (D)s & 2 (I)s (who caucus with (D)s), so they need at least 7 Democrats to vote with them.
Schumer is the Minority Leader "speaking for" the Senate Democrats.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,034 posts)and I believe that the Senate Democrats are in unity on this.
No caving.
Baitball Blogger
(50,998 posts)Right now the Democrats have to show leadership, and stand up to the Right, otherwise, they will be punished in the midterms.
BumRushDaShow
(160,868 posts)However he was "elected' by the Senate Caucus as the Minority Leader and thus he becomes the "spokesperson" for the Caucus.
It's basic protocol.
Baitball Blogger
(50,998 posts)BumRushDaShow
(160,868 posts)At the start of every 2-year Congressional session, "leaders" are chosen as well as either "Chairs" (for the party in the majority) or "Ranking Members" (if the party is in the minority) for all the Committees. It can be a fierce battle as you might have noted with some of the Ranking Member slots like for the House Oversight Committee and House Judiciary Committees.
Democrats CHOSE Schumer after we lost the Senate in 2024 as he had been the Majority Leader before then (since 2020). Prior to 2020, Democrats were last in control of the Senate in 2013, where Harry Reid was the Majority Leader. We then lost the Senate in the 2014 election and didn't regain it until 2020 (barely as it was a tie but swung to (D) due to having the Presidency and Vice-Presidency where the VP is technically "the President of the Senate" and can break ties). At that time, Schumer was the Democratic Caucus Vice-Chair (and Dick Durbin was the Assistant Majority Leader to Reid), and Schumer ran and won the top leadership job.
So from that era, the Caucus had a record of his work in a leadership position. I know that Durbin decided to remain as a Whip vs running for Minority Leader.
ETA and IMHO - Schumer was fine for the "past" but we are in a "break glass" moment, where all bets are off and a different style/tactic is needed (i.e., I get what you are saying but they are not going to completely toss out protocol now but should we make it to the 2026 election, he'll be toast).
Karma13612
(4,825 posts)More and more media consumers are cutting the cord and losing access to C SPAN.
I wish there was a way to get CSPAN without cable. But, its a Cable service/product, unlike the legacy networks which are available over the free digital airwaves (NBC, CBS, ABC, PBS).
As always, its the public that suffers.
BWdem4life
(2,764 posts)Um, really?
Even if true, its only the last person who talks to him that he can remember what they said.
And anyway neither can compete with the voices in his head.
(Unintentional rhyme, maybe I should be a songwriter.)
littlemissmartypants
(29,900 posts)For example ...
"...warn[ing] Trump directly about the possibility that thousands of Americans will see their health insurance premiums soar next year." Is exactly the kind of result that psychopaths enjoy.
Why aren't those "in charge" aware of that?
Tips for how to spot a psychopath like our president:
1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior
Klarkashton
(4,125 posts)Either dumb or just stupid either way it's impossibly bad.
littlemissmartypants
(29,900 posts)Klarkashton
(4,125 posts)Bastards now. Shut this horrible shit show down forever.
pat_k
(11,916 posts)What about going after Medicaid cuts?
What about demanding 47 stop violating his oath of office?
BumRushDaShow
(160,868 posts)The most pressing has been the ACA subsidies that sunset at the end of the calendar year and that would probably be the easiest to fix (just doing an extension). The Medicaid cuts are amongst all the other health-related cuts and there were an obscene amount of them, but might be fixable with legislative language changes.
sheshe2
(94,040 posts)DFW
(59,024 posts)Meant only to get the shutdown out of the headlines while they work with Murdoch to figure out how to blame it all on us.
Time to put up or shut up.
And Johnson should finally quit acting like a garden slug and swear in that Democratic Congresswoman, too!! I sometimes think he must maintain a strict salt-free diet to keep from melting.
tonekat
(2,366 posts)Is Kaiser Family Foundation:
kff.org
Bread and Circuses
(1,194 posts)no_hypocrisy
(53,208 posts)about the consequences of his being obstinate and of his inaction.
The classic "You were told but you wouldn't listen".