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without foreseeing and making plans for this obvious eventuality?


Edit: I just heard on Thom Hartmann that California did pass a law but it doesn't take effect until next year.

As long as they feel that they can make enough on the initial rollout to offset the backlash from everyone finding out that they released something without a thought as to how it would integrate into the real world, they will trot that shiat out as fast as they can.

Impound the vehicle until the owner pays the fines.

The owner didn't do it. Perhaps the car manufacturer?

... if a driver gets a ticket it also impacts the operator of the vehicle aka the company. Every commercial motor vehicle (CMV) in the USA needs a DOT number and the owner or operator name put on the side of it. And every operator that has a DOT number has a CSA (compliance , safety and accountability) score. The lower the score the better.

Waymo is technically operating a taxi service, a commercial operation and they would have commercial insurance.

I suppose what we could do is extend DOT requirements to taxis and taxi firms (and ride-sharing firms) and thus they would have DOT numbers and CSA scores.... And if they rack up too many points their whole business would be put out of service. I would certainly think that hours of service that bus drivers have to abide by should also apply to taxis and ride share ... Uber allows you to drive for 12 hours and that only resets after 6 hours of not driving. As a truck driver I can only drive 11 hours in a 14 hour window and that resets after 10 hours off (rules more complex esp for sleeper trucks so this is a gross simplification). Driving a car is easier than a truck but I wouldn't want to have a drowsy Uber driver as their "cargo" (people) is more precious than the 40,000 lbs of laundry detergent and shampoo that's behind me right now.

TL;DR; CMV owners/operators get impacted by driver tickets, taxis and ride share should be subject to similar regulations, and I ramble too much.

images of people crossing, slippery when wet, etc etc.....

I have seen some really out of the way signs. Really high up or off to the side.

And therefore be capable of predicting such a common occurrence and allowing for it in their work.
In the meantime boot the vehicle and set the fine at 100x for driverless vehicles. All of them have the same problem at day 1 until fixed.
I’m surprised it stopped for the cop!!!!!!

And it gets it wrong too many times. Like reading the speed limit in a weigh station but I'm actually bypassing it. So it will read a speed limit of 20 when it's actually 70. Or reading a school limit speed as the actual permanent speed limit. Or just misreading it altogether.

I could be wrong.
I have seen some errors with close side by side roads. The cars GPS interpretation puts you on the road running beside you.

The trucks I drive with this tech are definitely reading the signs on the road with their cameras. It reads speed limit signs in places I go which aren't public highways (truck yards). Plus GPS data for speed limits don't update that quick - throw up some road works and a reduced speed limit and your GPS will say the speed limit is still the normal limit before the roadworks started.

And also because the GPS speed limit data isn't updated in real time you will sometimes see anomalies when the Google Maps car goes down a stretch of highway with roadworks on it and capture the road works limits as the "normal" limits. Then later on when the road works are over the GPS still thinks the speed limit on that stretch of road is lower than what it is.

And he should be arrested if one ever leaves the scene of an accident resulting in injury.

I got the ticket because the car was registered in my name. I WAS driving, but the camera didn't know that.
So, I don't know why the cop couldn't issue the ticket.
I say, give the owner of the vehicle the ticket. Its up to the owner try to get reimbursed from the manufacturer.