Legal experts condemn Apple bowing to White House's request to remove ICE tracking app
Source: NPR
October 3, 2025 7:34 PM ET
Apple and Google on Thursday removed apps that alert people when Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents are nearby following pressure from Attorney General Pam Bondi. Critics of the tech giants capitulating to the Trump administration say it shows the sway President Trump has over Silicon Valley in his second term.
Apple said it yanked an app called ICEBlock from its app store after the "safety risks" of the app were made known to the company. The anonymous, crowd-sourced app describes itself as "Waze but for ICE sightings," and claims to serve as an early warning system informing people when ICE agents are nearby.
The app was launched in April and garnered hundreds of thousands of downloads, but it was only after Attorney General Pam Bondi put Apple on notice, demanding the app be pulled from the App Store, that the company made it unavailable. "We reached out to Apple today demanding they remove the ICEBlock app from their App Store and Apple did so," said Bondi in a statement to Fox News.
The Justice Department did not respond to NPR's questions about its request.
Read more: https://www.npr.org/2025/10/03/nx-s1-5561999/apple-google-iceblock-app-removal

lostincalifornia
(4,635 posts)has to be user forums tracking ICE activity out there. Networking through "word of mouth"
That being said, shame on Apple. Not a surprise, since many of the corporate entities both domestic and foreign appear to have no problem caving in to the sociopath for the all mighty buck, with no problem selling our democracy down the river.
I wonder if the time is coming where the government will start blocking certain internet sites like they do in China and other authoritative regimes, that the government views as "undesirable"
BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)So it was apparently available in Google's Play Store too.
I expect people may be able to "side-load" the app (or any equivalents) via the apk file.
lostincalifornia
(4,635 posts)are alternative apps.
https://www.iceblock.app/
BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)If it had any open source code, then it can be ported to work with all kinds of operating systems (phone or otherwise).
ETA - here is a variant that was supposedly for Android - https://fire-app.net/
lostincalifornia
(4,635 posts)COL Mustard
(7,616 posts)I get that ICE doesn't like being tracked, but neither do traffic cops, and Waze, Apple Maps and Google Maps all allow users to report where there are cops sitting by the road. What's the difference?
When will they start cracking down on people who've downloaded the app? That would seem to be the next step.
BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)and that was before any "apps" like Waze. The "crowd sourcing" of the past used to be CB-Radio!
Of course the peak of the sunspots impacted use (11 year cycle), so back then they went in and out of "style".

Marthe48
(21,986 posts)run their campaigns that let people know they were even running.
speak easy
(12,409 posts)BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)The developer of ICEBlock, Joshua Aaron, said he made the app in response to the Trump administration's stepped up immigration enforcement. After it was booted from Apple's app store, Aaron blamed political pressure and vowed to fight it.
He argued the app's service was engaged in a type of protected speech not unlike some of Apple's own apps, like the company's mapping app which allows users to crowdsource accidents, hazards and police speed traps along roadways.
"Capitulating to an authoritarian regime is never the right move," Aaron said in a statement.
Apple's action has reignited the debate about what's known as jawboning, when government officials censor speech through intimidation and threats.
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thesquanderer
(12,799 posts)...
"I think many large organizations are trying to keep their metaphorical heads down and act cautiously, even when the government is acting improperly or even unconstitutionally," said Gautam Hans, a law professor at Cornell University, who believes Apple would have a jawboning case but does not expect the company to pursue it. "Compliance will only incentivize further government demands."
BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)"When companies agree to the administration's demands in order to achieve some other goal, whether it be avoiding tariffs or getting merger approval, they send a message to others that it's ok to do the same,"Ruane said. "What's worse, they erode the promise of the First Amendment for all of us at the same time."
Kate Ruane is the Director of CDTs Free Expression Project. An attorney with a strong background in legal research, Kate is committed to the freedom of speech and to bringing focus to the ways in which strong protections for free expression benefit communities of color, religious minorities, LGBTQ+ communities, and other oft-censored groups. Kates expertise is expansive and her work spans many issues including the intersection of civil rights and free speech protections, Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, online privacy and surveillance, harassment, protecting children online, and disinformation.
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speak easy
(12,409 posts)A software developer has no legal right, first amendment, contractual or otherwise to post or keep an application on a Private Companies App Store. It is completely within Apple's discretion to accept the Federal Government's assertion that the app in question could put the safety of ICE agents at risk. If they were to reject that, and an ICE agent was injured, they would be legally liable.
This is quite different fro the FCC laying a heavy hand on broadcast TV.
BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)It's not "different".
Your example of going after broadcast media to "censor", is showing exactly what the problem is when it comes to other "media" like "social media" (apps). We're going through that with TikTok and the idiotic violation of a law to bend and sculpt that "app" and its "ownership".
Both "medias" are "regulated" by the federal government but the extent (and manner) of that regulation is what is at issue.
speak easy
(12,409 posts)BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)What do you think this is - https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app
(see the extension?)
Apps that are being used for "community" communication ARE "social media"
Right now, you have state and federal involvement in "privacy" issues and "age verification" -
State and Federal Developments in Minors Privacy in 2025
The age verification issue is being litigated right now -
Supreme Court Upholds Age Verification: A Game-Changer for Child Online Safety Laws
Access to certain content has been done both through the web AND "apps".
speak easy
(12,409 posts)Nevertheless, I believe Apple would be legally liable if it could be proved that the app in question led to assaults on ICE agents after being informed by the Federal Government that (in their view) the social media platform put the safety of ICE Agents at risk.
BumRushDaShow
(161,104 posts)There is a giganto case - Gonzalez v. Google
SCOTUS remanded that back to the 9th Circuit (2023) - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1333_6j7a.pdf
but where you had this ruling for the related case that was decided Twitter v. Taamneh and as part of that -
By Amy Howe
on May 18, 2023
The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled against the family of a 2017 ISIS attack victim who sought to hold tech companies liable for allowing ISIS to use their platforms in its terrorism efforts. The lawsuit seeking to hold Twitter, Facebook, and Google liable for aiding and abetting international terrorism cannot go forward, a unanimous court found. And based on that decision, the justices sidestepped a major ruling in a separate case on the scope of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which generally shields tech companies from liability for content published by users. The justices sent that case, Gonzalez v. Google LLC, back to the lower court for another look suggesting that it too was unlikely to survive.
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That "Section 230" is what is the "liability" (and lack thereof) part and Apple would not have had any liability for what might have happened with that ICE app, but they were "pressured".
(you made me go right down the rabbit hole and I remember when those cases came through too


thesquanderer
(12,799 posts)Bengus81
(9,476 posts)Money was the only thing Disney understood and so will Apple
randr
(12,595 posts)To build his cult.
samnsara
(18,637 posts)grocery store in Yakima Washington. I gave her the app and told it to share it with the co worker who worked at that store. I hope they got it installed. I assume its just going to not b updated and eventually not work.