US Senate passes bill with Republican support to rescind Trump's tariffs on Brazil
Source: The Guardian
The US Senate on Tuesday approved a measure that would terminate Donald Trumps sweeping tariffs on Brazilian imports, including coffee, beef and other products, in a rare bipartisan show of opposition to the presidents trade war.
The legislation passed in a 52-48 vote, with five Republicans senators Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Thom Tillis of North Carolina and the former Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky joining all Democrats in favor. The vote took place on day 28 of the federal government shutdown with both sides at loggerheads over spending legislation.
The resolution, led by Senator Tim Kaine, a Democrat of Virginia, would overturn the national emergency that Trump has declared to justify the levies, though it is all but certain to stall in the US House, where the Republican-controlled chamber acted to pre-emptively shut down any attempt to block the presidents tariffs. In the unlikely event the measure were to reach the presidents desk, it would meet Trumps veto.
Tariffs are a tax on American consumers. Tariffs are a tax on American businesses. And they are a tax that is imposed by a single person: Donald J Trump, Kaine said in a floor speech.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/28/us-senate-trump-tariffs-brazil
Attilatheblond
(7,600 posts)groundloop
(13,395 posts)(I'm not holding my breath though)
Javaman
(64,741 posts)The House idiots want to talk about anything other than the massive GOP failure to legislate and shut down Trump's autocratic actions. Now, they want to stir the Biden autopen pot again. Do they think everybody is as gullible and stupid as they are?
Mike Johnson hasn't the balls to dissent Trump's insanity but has unlimited arrogance to stand at a podium and pretend he doesn't know what's going on with Trump 2.0 insanity.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/house-republicans-unveil-biden-autopen-report-but-offer-little-new-information
Bluetus
(1,763 posts)One might have hoped that the bill would rescind ALL the tariffs in general. However, this may actually be a clever move. By focusing on Brazil, the Senate goes on record that there is no emergency state. Perhaps courts can use that as justification to negate all the other tariffs.
And don't be so sure it can't pass the House. It would require a discharge petition, but that is certainly possible with just a few GOP votes. The economy is showing signs of a major downturn. We are at the leading edge of what could be a big wave of layoffs. Amazon is laying off 2200 corporate people. That is not warehouse people replaced by automation. That indicates a real softening of their business. Other CEOs see that and will be scrambling to follow suit. These recessions always have a piling-on effect. When Republicans in the House see this in their own districts, we could easily see a dozen or more of them join a discharge petition. These are political animals. They can all see that Trump is imploding mentally and his approval is in the shitter. There comes a time where they decide that their best chances of keeping their seat require separation from Trump.
Even with the bill passing both houses, Trump probably vetoes it, but that will be highly visible and will cost Trump even more support. If his people are smart, they should be negotiating with Congress right now about how to pull back from the tariffs without being forced through legislation, Don't be surprised if Trump makes a trip to Brazil soon and announces a fantastic new deal with Brazil that allows him to remove the tariffs.
But let's assume this Senate bill is mirrored in the House and sent to Trump for his veto. This brings up a legal question I have no clue about. Normally the courts are supposed to operate on the basis of law. In this scenario, it would not be law because of Trump's veto. However, this is a case where the President has no inherent authority to unilaterally impose tariffs. This have to be ratified by Congress. However, Congress long ago passed some legislation that gives the President some power to impose tariffs in certain emergency situations, such as declared wars. Trump has done all these tariffs on the claim that we have such an emergency. If the House and Senate have passed bills saying there is no such emergency, can the courts use that in their decision, regardless of Trump's veto? After all, according to the Constitution, it is the Congress, not the President that has the power to declare war. Likewise it follows that the Congress (with or without Trump's veto) is the only body that can say there is NO PRESENT EMERGENCY requiring tariffs.
P.S. Next up, let's see the same GOP courage to pass a bill outlawing aid to Argentina.
Skittles
(168,319 posts)time for the rest of the greedy old pig party to understand they work for WE THE PEOPLE, not Donald Fucking Trump
timms139
(432 posts)another black mark against Little Mikey and the do nothing republicans in the house when they don't pass it .
Puppyjive
(871 posts)Against Brazil because they put Bolsonaro behind bars. Trump has a very parallel life to Bolsonaro. It's almost shocking how a like these two men are. Brazil dealt with Bolsonaro and put him behind bars for a long time. Trump needs to go the way of Bolsonaro. Lock him up.
thought crime
(937 posts)But will still fail in the House, so...
Fil1957
(294 posts)Sogo
(6,737 posts)nt
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(130,273 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,321 posts)including coffee, beef, and other products..."
I imagine coffee and beef are two of the more popular items in Congress that Orange Julius Caesar has slapped a tariff on. The price of beef in particular has skyrocketed lately.
IbogaProject
(5,282 posts)samsingh
(18,198 posts)even Reagan was against them
Torchlight
(6,000 posts)AllyCat
(18,303 posts)This madness? Wow!
Maybe they could get their heads further out of their backsides and vote with the Dems on other things that will improve our economy and lives.
kimbutgar
(26,347 posts)And especially if the house doesnt pass it will die on the vine. Those five repukes know they are leaving or facing a difficult challenger.
Diraven
(1,714 posts)That's not a veto-proof majority.