did he get hit by a school bus?

how about starting the school day an hour later, or installing lights at the bus stop?

"better to light 1 candle than to curse the darkness." st christopher.

On the other hand, in the text below the line break, the OP says that he/she was a victim of that original case of dumbassery. Trust Dickhead Scott (Q-Medicare Fraud) to take up the mantle that Rubio (Q-Lazy) set aside for the thankless “glory” of being Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent’s Secretary of State, pushing this shit. This stupidity benefits only ONE…maybe two…states: Florida and Hawaii. That said, only assholes from one of those two states are pushing this bullshit. DST deserves to die, but if we have to let it linger in our misery, then let’s keep as-is (or move it to the weekends after the equinoxes).

Dickhead is a known liar, but pretty sure even HE wouldn’t make a claim as fact-checkable as that: Asshole was in the Navy at that time, not riding a bus/walking to school.

The daylight savings nonsense was supposedly pushed by farmers to have "extra light" in the afternoons and then when that became a joke, it was pushed by the recreational lobbyists who wanted extended hours at places like golf courses.

There have been efforts to start the school day "later" (and especially for high schools where the kids are showing up half a sleep to school), but starting school "later" screws with the parents' work schedule and requiring some kind of "before school" daycare/babysitting at a significant cost.

...a mail carrier or a person who delivered home health services. I've done both and it is no fun trying to get your job done in the dark. Not only is it often scary, it's downright unsafe.

as opposed to children exposed to child predators driving around in vans snatching kids off the street in morning darkness. And add to that, the perpetual issue experienced by children fortunate to have a school bus to pick them up and having drivers not seeing the children running for it and ignoring the big flashing lights on the bus, and driving around it while a child is crossing the street to get on the bus. And that happens with public transit buses in the mornings too, but there's no "flashing school bus-type light" to alert drivers to people crossing the street to get to the bus.

Everything is about perspective. As I kid I remember catching the school bus in the dark and I was not afraid, even though I had to walk a couple of blocks to get there. As an adult working in the dark, I had plenty of close calls. Most kids are either walked or driven to school by family members--even in the poorer neighborhoods.

where you have more abductions - and that includes by ex-'s and other family members with beefs.

(which are most of them if they are not on some kind of delayed schedule and/or are on shift work)



They will need a "before school" daycare or some facility (or the school itself) offering something for kids, which often means an extra cost if the school doesn't offer that for "free".

free of charge to parents. Teacher's aides were usually paid to do that, and since they're underpaid, they welcomed a way to make a little more money. I don't know if they still do it, but it seemed to work well in the school system I'm familiar with. They sometimes paired it with tutoring for the kids who needed some extra help that parents were unable to give. Before school programs included breakfast.

and parents have availed of that by need due to their own work schedules.

But when you have school systems like Philly's without any "dedicated" state funding and mainly relying on property taxes (where almost a quarter of the population is in poverty), then they don't have the resources to handle that if such a change were made for starting school "later" (for ALL).

There have been calls for starting them later for high schools due to teens needing more hours of sleep, allowing them to perform better during the day, but that age group can handle "dark" better than the little ones and don't need the parents to accompany them to school.

This was one of the pushes behind allowing remote work (where possible) because you have some parent able to deal with a later (delayed) schedule. But corporate America ain't having that because the "touchy-feely" bosses want to be able to "touch and feel" their employees at the office and are paranoid if they can't "see" them.

in so many ways. This being one. The differences between inner city and rural schools compared to wealthy suburban schools is outrageous.

Both my sisters live in 'burbs adjoining to Philly. The one I live closest to is in a town of 5000, which is part of a township of 4 towns (for a total pop. of 20,000) that share public services like police, fire, schools, libraries, etc. They literally built TWO brand new schools - an elementary and a middle school, during my niece's time in their school system.

Meanwhile here in Philly, we still have the same 100+ year old piece of junk elementary schools with mold, asbestos, no air-conditioning (and slow attempts to put in window units where they suddenly discover that the electrical systems can't handle all that), continual heating problems in winter, and roof leaks.

The first "newer" school building that I went to wasn't until high school, which was a building built in 1959, which was considered "old" by the time I went there. I went to middle/junior high in the SAME building that my mother used for high school back in the '40s (and that was when the building was already a couple decades old). The middle/junior high school had no field and had a "playground" for recess on the roof that was caged in.

That man has no business making laws. Stupid Florida!

and it worked fine. Everyone liked it, then Mitch Daniels (R) was elected governor and restarted the system of changing back and forth. For some time, he allowed each county to decide what time to adopt and that was a real Republican nightmare. People were working in one time zone and living in another.

I've seen articles saying changing the time back and forth is bad for your health, so I'm not sure what to believe about that. I only know that whenever the time changed, my body had a difficult time adjusting.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/changing-clocks-to-daylight-saving-time-is-bad-for-your-health/

and during my off time, I hopped a Greyhound bus to Indianapolis (so I could say I had been to Indiana ) and ran into that time thing (especially trying to figure out what I should do with the depart/arrive times on the bus schedule ).

The way they USED to have daylight savings was "April / October", which are closer to when the equinoxes (equal days/nights) happened. Then some idiots changed it to starting early March and ending early November.

From the AMA - Sleep doctors’ orders: Use standard time 365 days a year

But by then, school is almost over. Here in winter, the sun wouldn't be coming up until almost 8:30 am in December/January.

I remember going to school downtown during that period - every day catching a commuter train ( "7:40 am Express" ) and a bus, and the sun wasn't coming up until after 8 am (through February) when they pushed to that "early" daylight savings starting January, and I had to be in school by 8:45 am.

Before this current schema, it was the first Sunday in April (equinox was a couple weeks before then, in March) and the last Sunday in October (about 6 weeks after the September equinox).

It was moved to the first Sunday in March (BEFORE the spring equinox, which isn't until a couple weeks later) and first Sunday in November (about 7 weeks after the September equinox). So it's effectively only about 4 months of standard time and 8 months of daylight time.

Going to work during this current range (which I think went into effect in 2007), it is pitch black at 6 am and that is when I was headed out to commute to work. Not too many people work the "9 am to 5 pm" thing anymore.

Doing business in Indiana in the 90's for companies with customers across the country was challenging. Most of our customers changed time twice a year and we didn't which caused confusion with business hours and shipping deadlines. Being on the same time as our customers year-round was a tremendous improvement.

Personally, I have no problem with an hour time-shift twice a year but apparently it does confuse some people.

and then moved to Arizona where they too didn't change the stupid clocks.

Now, I live in CA who voted for this madness to end but the government won't let them change!

Stop the nonsense. sheesh.

and kids have no trouble getting to school.

Different story when you're up at 47 north.

in the winter.
And should the whole country be on DST for North Dakota and Maine?

I hold an unpopular opinion on this, but it is informed by living at 47.6 degrees north.

AZ does what it wants already - standard time.

accommodate the Northern border?

because of it. It hurts public sport parks who many do not provide lights on their Tennis, Pickleball, Basketball courts. It hurts the Golf industry, by 04:00pm you cannot see the ball anymore, etc., etc.

It serves no purpose. I don't agree that any changes should occur, it should be daylight saving time (DST), we want to go back from work to our homes with still some daylight.

I do understand that Standard Time seems to be better for people, but we are adaptable, I personally rather have DST, be able to get out of work and do some sports, and being able to do so because I still have sun light.

I believe the problem with health is the change, going back and forth every year, but if left at DST, we will all adapt, it will stop being a concern.

Then we wouldn’t have changing hours of daylight. Or seasons, for that matter. How do those Stable Geniuses explain both of those things for their flat earth opinions?

standard time. Stop all the b.s. about saving daylight. Leave the clocks alone. Sheesh!

"But..but...in the winter ...the children have to go to school in the dark"....
"Then change to damn hours of the school!! What's the big deal."

DST was a decent notion a hundred years ago, but no longer.

And stay there, the constant change is hard on my body especially as I age.

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Plus, apparently no one who complains about the switch has ever crossed a time zone. The general rule of thumb is that you can adjust in 24 hours to a one hour time zone change.

So taking days? Seriously? One freaking hour.

(Edited to fix typo)

and it takes me weeks to settle to new time. Maybe no issue for you.

It's all kinds of fun when arranging to meet someone for dinner, in one location or the other.

and people are worried about setting a couple of clocks forward or backward?

Winter daylight savings for the most northern states is a horrible idea. For Florida Golfers, it might be nice (the Golf Business is lobbying heavily for it).

not like daylight savings time year around. It would still be dark here at nine in the morning. I remember one of the local meteorologist saying that a couple of years ago.