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BumRushDaShow

(162,593 posts)
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 04:54 AM 22 hrs ago

Michigan Lawyer Says The Halloween Terror Plot That FBI Director Kash Patel Described Never Existed

Source: Huff Post/AP

Nov 1, 2025, 04:52 PM EDT


A Michigan defense lawyer is disputing FBI allegations that his 20-year-old client and four other young suspects were planning to carry out a terror attack on Halloween weekend. Authorities with the FBI and in Michigan have offered few details about the case, however as he announced the arrests on Friday, FBI Director Kash Patel said more information would be released. Spokespersons for the state and national FBI and the U.S. Attorney in Detroit did not immediately respond to messages Saturday.

The investigation involved discussion in an online chat room involving at least some of the suspects who were taken into custody, according to two people briefed on the investigation who could not publicly discuss details. They spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. The group allegedly discussed carrying out an attack around Halloween, referring to “pumpkin day,” according to one of the people. The other person briefed on the investigation confirmed that there had been a “pumpkin” reference.

However, lawyer Amir Makled, who represents a man from the suburb of Dearborn who was being detained Saturday, told The Detroit News that he doesn’t believe his client or the four other people who were questioned by the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force should be charged. The all-male group of U.S. citizens ranges in age from 16-20, Makled said.

“This is not a terrorist cell,” Makled told The News. “There was never any planned mass-casualty event or terrorism plot of any kind that I’m aware of. They might have been on some websites or online chat groups that they shouldn’t have been, but nothing that is illegal.” Makled did not immediately respond to messages from the AP seeking comment on Saturday.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/us-michigan-arrests-halloween-plot-kash-patel_n_6906720de4b05a8637e7c3f3?origin=home-whats-happening-unit

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Michigan Lawyer Says The Halloween Terror Plot That FBI Director Kash Patel Described Never Existed (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 22 hrs ago OP
Pretty much... 2naSalit 22 hrs ago #1
You're not the only one. calimary 21 hrs ago #2
They were disguised as Mutant Ninja Turtles BidenRocks 20 hrs ago #3
The Trump Crime Syndicate always lies, always commits crimes. Irish_Dem 20 hrs ago #4
Kash needed snowybirdie 17 hrs ago #5
+1 dalton99a 16 hrs ago #8
As everyone suspected... travelingthrulife 16 hrs ago #6
The first time I read about it, it sounded so bs kimbutgar 16 hrs ago #7
To point out the obvious..... JohnnyRingo 15 hrs ago #9
"That's what grand juries are for." BumRushDaShow 15 hrs ago #11
I get it, but a GJ is only the first hurdle in the justice system JohnnyRingo 15 hrs ago #13
Oh sure BumRushDaShow 14 hrs ago #16
Can they hold a grand jury after someone has been arrested and charged? FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #18
Your "avatars"? with Piglet an Poo made me laugh out loud. The rest are great as well. ED Evolve Dammit 11 hrs ago #21
Yes, a grand jury can be held after a person has been arrested and charged reACTIONary 8 hrs ago #25
Thanks ... I learned something today FakeNoose 5 hrs ago #26
Yeah, we should wait for a trial. But that's not our style: ... JustABozoOnThisBus 12 hrs ago #19
And to point out a subtlety.... reACTIONary 8 hrs ago #23
I wouldn't trust that claim no matter who was in charge. malthaussen 15 hrs ago #10
I have heard Halloween referred to as 'pumpkin day' forever ToxMarz 15 hrs ago #12
Trumpkin Day BattleRow 8 hrs ago #24
Maybe their online chat was planning to attack extra-large pizzas on Halloween. Vinca 15 hrs ago #14
What a member of this administration lying to us. republianmushroom 14 hrs ago #15
Patel and Boing Boing pfitz59 13 hrs ago #17
Patel is a Republican... GiqueCee 11 hrs ago #20
And if we actually have something along these lines.... paleotn 10 hrs ago #22
It's almost like they are afraid of real dangerous people. 1WorldHope 4 hrs ago #27

2naSalit

(98,475 posts)
1. Pretty much...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 04:57 AM
22 hrs ago

As I suspected.

I hope these fucking nazis get their karma before I leave the planet, I really want to see that.

Irish_Dem

(77,162 posts)
4. The Trump Crime Syndicate always lies, always commits crimes.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:04 AM
20 hrs ago

And accuses everyone else of doing the same.

kimbutgar

(26,382 posts)
7. The first time I read about it, it sounded so bs
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 10:56 AM
16 hrs ago

Kash was desperate to change the subject of him using the government jet for a date night and said look over there and not at my wrongdoing.

JohnnyRingo

(20,262 posts)
9. To point out the obvious.....
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:37 AM
15 hrs ago

It's their defense lawyer. He has to say they're innocent. It's literally his job whether or not they actually are.

Considering this administration and Keystone Kash's reputation that may be true, but better to wait until more information comes out before making conclusions. That's what grand juries are for.

BumRushDaShow

(162,593 posts)
11. "That's what grand juries are for."
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:50 AM
15 hrs ago

Like the one that indicted NY AG Letitia James?

(remember, grand juries are only given "one side" because they are actually establishing "charges" versus what is typical that come from LEOs who actually witness a crime)

JohnnyRingo

(20,262 posts)
13. I get it, but a GJ is only the first hurdle in the justice system
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 12:14 PM
15 hrs ago

They may well be innocent. I'm not to judge. I'm just saying a defense lawyer is going to say they are regardless, and before demanding their release we should learn more. -If we're allowed before a GJ hears it.

Trump's defense lawyers made that plea 37 times.

BumRushDaShow

(162,593 posts)
16. Oh sure
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 12:43 PM
14 hrs ago

But we are in a different "universe" with different "rules" and the oft-projected "rigging" is now being carried out by those who accused "us" of such.

FakeNoose

(39,232 posts)
18. Can they hold a grand jury after someone has been arrested and charged?
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 02:01 PM
13 hrs ago

That's a new one on me.

Evolve Dammit

(21,322 posts)
21. Your "avatars"? with Piglet an Poo made me laugh out loud. The rest are great as well. ED
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 04:17 PM
11 hrs ago

reACTIONary

(6,789 posts)
25. Yes, a grand jury can be held after a person has been arrested and charged
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:24 PM
8 hrs ago

Yes, a grand jury can be held after a person has been arrested and charged, as grand juries are often used to secure an indictment before a felony trial, even after an arrest.In many jurisdictions, a grand jury indictment is required for felony charges. Even if charges have been filed, a prosecutor will still present the evidence to a grand jury to secure the necessary indictment.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,465 posts)
19. Yeah, we should wait for a trial. But that's not our style: ...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:13 PM
12 hrs ago

We didn't wait for a trial to condemn Biden and seek his exit from the 2024 race.

We didn't wait for a trial to condemn Al Franken and seek his exit from the senate.

At least for this group, there might be a trial. Hegseth could have simply dropped some bombs on the houses and be done with it.

reACTIONary

(6,789 posts)
23. And to point out a subtlety....
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 07:18 PM
8 hrs ago

.... he added "that I'm aware of", something of a weasel worded phrase.

malthaussen

(18,303 posts)
10. I wouldn't trust that claim no matter who was in charge.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 11:43 AM
15 hrs ago

Most of these soi-disant "terrorist plots" are either fantasies of law enforcement, or worse, entrapment operations that are actually started by law enforcement. Because they don't want to admit that US Citizens are infinitely more likely to be killed by a redneck with a rifle than a foreign terrorist.

-- Mal

Vinca

(52,944 posts)
14. Maybe their online chat was planning to attack extra-large pizzas on Halloween.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 12:15 PM
15 hrs ago

If they're the right color, it's enough for this administration.

pfitz59

(12,021 posts)
17. Patel and Boing Boing
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 01:34 PM
13 hrs ago

have no business running the FBI. Grossly incompetent. Just like Bondi.

GiqueCee

(2,978 posts)
20. Patel is a Republican...
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 03:32 PM
11 hrs ago

... therefore he is a liar. Only lies can support or defend such a diseased belief system.

paleotn

(21,108 posts)
22. And if we actually have something along these lines....
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 04:44 PM
10 hrs ago

It will go unnoticed until it's too late. Simply due to this regimes gross incompetence.

1WorldHope

(1,750 posts)
27. It's almost like they are afraid of real dangerous people.
Sun Nov 2, 2025, 10:42 PM
4 hrs ago

I don't mean extremely dangerous, I mean real dangerous compared to, not fucking dangerous at all!!!

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