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cliffside

(1,498 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:32 PM Tuesday

Republicans demand tougher abortion restrictions to extend Obamacare funds

Source: NBC

"WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans say they’re open to extending a pot of Affordable Care Act funds that will expire at the end of the year — but only if Democrats acquiesce to stricter abortion restrictions on insurance plans.

The demand presents a significant hurdle to reaching a bipartisan deal to extend ACA funding designed to avoid major premium hikes next year for more than 20 million Americans, as Democrats are adamant that existing abortion guardrails under Obamacare are sufficient.

If the funds are not extended by the end of the year, some people insured under Obamacare could see their bills rise by thousands of dollars per month, raising concerns that millions will choose to go uninsured.

Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D., said there will be a negotiation about an extension after the government reopens. He said one condition will be stricter rules pertaining to the Hyde amendment, which bars federal funding from being used for abortion..."



Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-demand-tougher-abortion-restrictions-extend-obamacare-fund-rcna243206

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Republicans demand tougher abortion restrictions to extend Obamacare funds (Original Post) cliffside Tuesday OP
yup the "moderates" got played lapfog_1 Tuesday #1
Sure looks that way and this sentence in the article makes it sound as if Thune said this before ... cliffside Tuesday #2
This may be a way to get Republicans to vote for extending ACA subsidies without really giving them anything. SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #6
If this is true, then Sunday's deal can become a victory ... but short-lived Martin Eden 18 hrs ago #8
But, but,but the Epstein files yaesu Yesterday #3
ACA federal money already can't go to cover abortions. This is GOP kabuki theater. SunSeeker 23 hrs ago #4
Wasn't abortion homegirl 23 hrs ago #5
Moving the goalposts pfitz59 21 hrs ago #7
Who would expect anything less. lark 16 hrs ago #9
Yup, like none, no abortion, period. republianmushroom 13 hrs ago #10

cliffside

(1,498 posts)
2. Sure looks that way and this sentence in the article makes it sound as if Thune said this before ...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 11:42 PM
Tuesday

the bill passed.



“That’s what we’re going to negotiate,” Thune told reporters before the Senate passed the bill to end the government shutdown."

SunSeeker

(57,212 posts)
6. This may be a way to get Republicans to vote for extending ACA subsidies without really giving them anything.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:21 AM
22 hrs ago

The ACA already complies with the Hyde Amendment by not using federal subsidy money to cover abortions; states just add their own state money to cover abortions.

If the GOP objection is that some states cover abortion under the ACA with state funding, I think there is a way to finesse this so that the state is no longer paying for the abortion using the ACA mechanism but through a whole separate mechanism, like a state voucher.

That way, the Republicans in Congress can pander to their creepy forced birth base and say they got the ACA to stop paying for abortions (even though it never did pay for abortions) as a face saving gesture to allow the Republicans to vote to pass the ACA subsidy extension.

Martin Eden

(15,169 posts)
8. If this is true, then Sunday's deal can become a victory ... but short-lived
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 07:13 AM
18 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Nov 12, 2025, 09:03 AM - Edit history (1)

The House would still have to pass it and Trump sign it, correct? Very doubtful that will happen.

That offer is a cynical ploy to allow Repuke Senators in purple states to avoid blame for destroying healthcare, with confidence that healthcare will be destroyed anyway.

SunSeeker

(57,212 posts)
4. ACA federal money already can't go to cover abortions. This is GOP kabuki theater.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 01:42 AM
23 hrs ago

Last edited Wed Nov 12, 2025, 02:22 AM - Edit history (1)

From the article:

To satisfy Democratic demands to comply with the Hyde amendment when Obamacare passed in 2010, the law does not allow federal funds to cover abortions. Some states allow people insured under Obamacare to access abortion coverage using state or other funding. Republicans want to change that.

...
Katie Keith, a Georgetown Law professor and founding director of its Center for Health Policy and the Law, said existing law bans any federal funds from flowing to abortion care through ACA plans, including the premium tax credits and cost-sharing reduction payments, consistent with the Hyde amendment.

States have the option to create separate revenue streams where enrollees can pay a surcharge to gain abortion coverage through their plans. Twenty-five states ban abortion coverage through ACA marketplaces entirely. The rest are split between requiring it through additional state funding or deferring to insurers.

Still, even for states that allow ACA plans to cover abortion, “there are strict segregation requirements,” Keith said. “Since the law was enacted, no federal funds flow toward abortion care.”
 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republicans-demand-tougher-abortion-restrictions-extend-obamacare-fund-rcna243206

If the GOP objection is that some states cover abortion under the ACA with state funding, I think there is a way to finesse this so that the state is no longer paying for the abortion using the ACA mechanism but through a whole separate mechanism, like a state voucher. That way, the Republicans in Congress can pander to their creepy forced birth base and say they got the ACA to stop paying for abortions (even though it never did pay for abortions) as a face saving gesture to allow the Republicans to vote to pass the ACA subsidy extension.




lark

(25,690 posts)
9. Who would expect anything less.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 09:08 AM
16 hrs ago

R's never made a promise to do something good and actually followed through. Nope, it was a performative lie and the 8 had to know this and just didn't care. I can understand Kaine doing this, living in VA with all the furloughed folks, but Durbin - WTF???

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