The brilliance of the Trump economy would blind ordinary mortals! It must be kept triple wrapped under the sweaty pillow of Karoline Leavitt's Dad-Husband.

are gone or checked out.

Letting the system collapse may be the only option now. Waiting to see how financial markets will react. Maybe I should move all in on Euros.

If October had bad numbers, now would be the time (after the election) to get it out there from their political standpoint.

I'm not sure he can rely on the acting guy to cook the books

It has always seemed to me that the crooks -- particularly Republican crooks -- believe their crimes aren't crimes if they get away with it. The only crime for these folks is getting caught.

And with the felon pardoning MAGA criminals right and left, getting caught isn't even considered a crime

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as has been shown so many times this year where the DOJ goes after agents and prosecutors who investigated and prosecuted tRump's and allies' crimes.

Does it really matter what numbers they finally publish? Nobody will believe them anyway.

The president is ultimately responsible for everything, even if republicans obviously sabotage things.

When republicans control everything's somehow anything that goes wrong is the fault of democrats.

Post 10 for more.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3564090

They were technically employed through 9/30, so the job losses would be counted in the Oct report.

The BLS report certainly describes a jobs bloodbath in numbers that don't get picked up in private sector reports like ADP.

Ensuring the non-release of that report is probably why the felon didn't put much pressure on the Republicans to get rid of the filibuster. When the danger passed, he sure as hell would have and the the House CR would almost certainly have been passed by the Senate Republicans this week to ensure the government was open as people went home for Thanksgiving.

It seems to me there is widespread false premise that the only "win" would be getting an extension of the ACA subsidies. But there were two ways to win:

1) Trumpublicans ended the shutdown by adding an ACA subsidy extension

2) Trumpublicans ended the shutdown by jettisoning the filibuster.

Option 2 was a far, far, far, far better outcome than the "deal."

The 5 additional defectors only needed to hold out another week or so. In addition to the malignant narcissist-in-chief ramping up the pressure, rank and file Trumpublicans dread of their constituents hating on them over Thanksgiving dinner, would have pushed Thune to cave on the filibuster. The result:

-Instead of saying, "Why oh why did the Dems subject us to this pain for nothing," more would be livid with: "You mean you could have ended this by getting rid of the filibuster before it even started!!!"

-Democrats would be the ones that stood strong, doing battle on behalf of the American people with the leverage they had right up to the point that that leverage was forcibly taken from them.

-Our Democratic electeds would have demonstrated an unprecedented strength.

-People who support the Democratic Party would be riding as high as they were on Friday. Enraged by the ACA loss, but proud as hell of the strength demonstrated.

-The depravity and cruelty shown by the felon during the shutdown would be all the more evident as his Trumpublicans took 100% responsibly for the horror show.

First, the inflation report --

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-sp-500-nasdaq-soar-lead-dow-higher-as-senate-vote-lifts-hopes-for-end-to-us-shutdown-210042449.html
Scroll, scroll, and scroll down to the one, "The government shutdown could end soon. The release of key government data could take longer."