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highplainsdem

(59,194 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:05 PM Nov 20

Kansas City Chiefs coach responds to Trump's criticism of NFL kickoff rule: 'He has no idea what's going on'

Source: Independent

Kansas City Chiefs assistant head coach Dave Toub has brushed off President Trump’s criticisms of recent changes to the NFL’s kickoff rules.

“He doesn’t even know what he’s looking at,” Toub said at a press conference on Thursday, eliciting a laugh from the gathered reporters. “He has no idea what’s going on with the kickoff rule, so I’m going to take that for what it’s worth. I hope he hears it.”

Throughout this year, President Trump has railed against the league’s new kickoff rules that prevent the kicking team from moving forward until the ball lands or is caught by a returner on the opposing side.

During an interview earlier this month on The Pat McAfee Show, Trump said the new ”Dynamic Kickoff” rules, first introduced last year, have made the game “unromantic” and are “demeaning to football.”

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Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-chiefs-nfl-kickoff-rule-b2869565.html

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Kansas City Chiefs coach responds to Trump's criticism of NFL kickoff rule: 'He has no idea what's going on' (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 20 OP
??? Unromantic. More details , pleas Bread and Circuses Nov 20 #1
Trump also said, as quoted in the next paragraph, that the new rule "hurts the pageantry." highplainsdem Nov 20 #3
He wants to romance that little piggy newdeal2 Nov 20 #8
TSF has to..he just has to push his own agenda into every aspect of our lives because he knows everything Deuxcents Nov 20 #2
I don't ever again want to hear Republicans blabber about "small government." Diamond_Dog Nov 20 #4
He is constantly in our face about what *he* thinks, what *he*wants to do and what the rest of us has to do Deuxcents Nov 20 #5
Yep, he has to stick his nose and his demands into literally EVERYTHING about our everyday lives. Diamond_Dog Nov 20 #10
Hope the assistant coach doesn't get threatened. Silent Type Nov 20 #6
Uh, less players injured Dumpy Clouds Passing Nov 20 #7
He's never gotten over NOT being an NFL owner. underpants Nov 20 #9
Glad that someone from the Chiefs BaronChocula Nov 20 #11
For those who don't know, the old kick off was brutal. C Moon Nov 21 #12
I was on the kickoff team when I was 13 and a helmet to helmet hit with the ball carrier knocked me out cold Ponietz Nov 21 #17
Was a fair catch allowed on a kickoff return? radicalleft Nov 21 #18
I had to look it up. C Moon Nov 21 #19
drumpf is a dipshit JoseBalow Nov 21 #13
Did Donnie ever play football? Seinan Sensei Nov 21 #14
Like the first pitch in a baseball game, they should have trump receive the first kickoff in a game. C Moon Nov 21 #15
- Lemon Lyman Nov 21 #16
The Hunt family is ultra MAGA. Boomerproud Nov 21 #20

Deuxcents

(25,023 posts)
2. TSF has to..he just has to push his own agenda into every aspect of our lives because he knows everything
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:13 PM
Nov 20

And only he can fix things whether they need fixing or not. Could he just stfu and ride out his term?

Diamond_Dog

(39,346 posts)
4. I don't ever again want to hear Republicans blabber about "small government."
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:22 PM
Nov 20

As you said, Deuxcents. That orange criminal has to push his agenda into every aspect of our lives! The day he is gone can’t come soon enough for me.

Deuxcents

(25,023 posts)
5. He is constantly in our face about what *he* thinks, what *he*wants to do and what the rest of us has to do
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:32 PM
Nov 20

Day and night and it’s exhausting, chaotic and mostly destructive. I’m waiting on the cure for this madness

Diamond_Dog

(39,346 posts)
10. Yep, he has to stick his nose and his demands into literally EVERYTHING about our everyday lives.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 11:00 PM
Nov 20

Small government my ass …..I am so sick of him …… the ignorant orange slob has had to be front and center in our lives for ten years. I can still remember when we had a competent, compassionate President that just did his job well and you didn’t even have to concern yourself with any nefarious bullshit, when it was a given your President was doing a good job for the American people and you didn’t even have to think about it. I can’t wait till we return to that.

underpants

(194,151 posts)
9. He's never gotten over NOT being an NFL owner.
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 10:59 PM
Nov 20

He wanted it so desperately.

He didn’t have to money to be an NFL owner. None. The Maras, Hunts, and Rooneys would never let that happen. This is aside from his owning and somehow failing at casinos. He was still able to run a football league into the ground. That WAS rule numero uno with Rozelle. Jesus what has the NFL and ESPN become?

He also lost money selling red meat to Americans.

C Moon

(13,366 posts)
12. For those who don't know, the old kick off was brutal.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:25 AM
Nov 21

Last edited Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:54 AM - Edit history (1)

It allowed for the kicking team to be in full sprint when they reached the guy catching the ball. He had to decide whether to call a fair catch (and the ball would be placed where caught which kept him from not get clobbered by some guy running full sprint at him), or catch it and run.

Lots of injuries on the old style kickoffs—including concussions.

Side note: In high school football, I was on a kicking team, and a defender clipped me from the side (threw his body at the side of my knee). Stretched the ligament badly. The knee swung inward and then back. No tear. But it gave me a sickening feeling in my stomach I'll never forget. I don't know how these NFL guys do it.

Ponietz

(4,215 posts)
17. I was on the kickoff team when I was 13 and a helmet to helmet hit with the ball carrier knocked me out cold
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:35 AM
Nov 21

I switched to soccer. Never looked back.

radicalleft

(562 posts)
18. Was a fair catch allowed on a kickoff return?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 05:47 AM
Nov 21

I know it was for punt, but I thought KO was either catch it and run or down it...

C Moon

(13,366 posts)
19. I had to look it up.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:24 PM
Nov 21

I guess because the ball gets there so much earlier than a punt, it’s not used very often but a fair catch is permitted on a kickoff (from what I read).

JoseBalow

(9,014 posts)
13. drumpf is a dipshit
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:28 AM
Nov 21

Just a blathering idiot, without a clue. Never does a day go by without that halfwit uttering something moronic.

Seinan Sensei

(1,282 posts)
14. Did Donnie ever play football?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:28 AM
Nov 21

Nope
I did see a pic of him posing with an “also participated” trophy from Summer Camp
Perhaps for Beanbag-Baseball
Maybe for Lawn Darts.

C Moon

(13,366 posts)
15. Like the first pitch in a baseball game, they should have trump receive the first kickoff in a game.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 02:51 AM
Nov 21

Lemon Lyman

(1,547 posts)
16. -
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 04:02 AM
Nov 21

Dave Toub is the best special teams coach in the NFL. I'm a BEARS fan. He was with the BEARS during the Lovie Smith years. They always had outstanding special teams. Devin Hester didn't hurt.

He should've gotten more of a chance to be a head coach in the league. Very few special teams coaches get head coaching opportunities (John Harbaugh of the Baltimore Ravens is one). Teams want the hot offensive coordinator or the hot defensive coordinator when they're hiring a new head coach.

Boomerproud

(9,073 posts)
20. The Hunt family is ultra MAGA.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:38 PM
Nov 21

It will be interesting to see if this assistant coach is unscathed after those remarks.

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