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BumRushDaShow

(164,031 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:41 AM Nov 21

'He Is Out of Control': MAGA Demands Answers After Trump Ambassador Mike Huckabee Covertly Meets With Spy

Source: MEDIAite

Nov 20th, 2025, 9:39 pm


Prominent supporters of President Donald Trump demanded answers on Thursday after it was revealed that U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee had held a secret meeting in Jerusalem with Jonathan Pollard, a convicted spy who sold American secrets to Israel.

Reacting to news of the July rendezvous, which reportedly raised concerns at the CIA, former Fox News host Tucker Carlson said, “This is shocking behavior from a United States ambassador. Is Huckabee going to explain it?”

“Immediately Recall Ambassador Huckabee, He is Out of Control,” reacted former White House chief strategist and Breitbart executive chairman Steve Bannon.

“There is no universe where it’s appropriate for Mike Huckabee, who is supposed to be OUR AMBASSADOR and serve our country’s interest, is meeting with Jonathan Pollard, who to this day encourages spying on the U.S.,” protested Mike Cernovich, who called for an investigation into the meeting.

Read more: https://www.mediaite.com/politics/he-is-out-of-control-maga-demands-answers-after-trump-ambassador-mike-huckabee-covertly-meets-with-spy-who-sold-american-secrets/



Full headline: ‘He Is Out of Control’: MAGA Demands Answers After Trump Ambassador Mike Huckabee Covertly Meets With Spy Who Sold American Secrets



(Huckleberry is going for "the rapture" )
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'He Is Out of Control': MAGA Demands Answers After Trump Ambassador Mike Huckabee Covertly Meets With Spy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 21 OP
And who, major MAGA brains, do you suppose told them to meet? travelingthrulife Nov 21 #1
Huckleberry is going for "the rapture" unweird Nov 21 #2
They are actually doing this Clouds Passing Nov 21 #7
The Christian extremists are supposed to be Ilsa Nov 21 #17
People truly believe this myth... Clouds Passing Nov 21 #35
I wish there were a Rapture. Figarosmom Nov 22 #40
When the occasion comes up, I inform them the Rapture already happened JHB Nov 22 #41
I love telling them that. enigmania Nov 22 #42
Covering all their bases I guess. travelingthrulife Nov 22 #44
The key phrase is "supposed to be." soldierant Nov 21 #36
I was just talking yestwrday about the slightlv Nov 21 #18
These "fringe evangelicals" dominate the politics of the Bible Belt. walkingman Nov 21 #27
I'll agree we do seem to have more than our share around here! (LOL) slightlv Nov 21 #30
"Rapture make those child rapes go away" durablend Nov 21 #8
The Epstein RAPEture isn't going away. BattleRow Nov 21 #15
the "rapture" is all BS - Nigrum Cattus Nov 21 #9
Thanks for that - it was quite enlightening rurallib Nov 21 #12
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 21 #34
Dang! MarcoZandrini Nov 22 #43
Bannon trying to pivot MAGA into Goody Two Shoes status bucolic_frolic Nov 21 #3
He's recently been "isolationalist" as well as "nativist" BumRushDaShow Nov 21 #4
The antisemites are having a sad JoseBalow Nov 21 #5
From the MEDIAite article at link: sop Nov 21 #6
"" AllaN01Bear Nov 21 #10
Pardon AverageOldGuy Nov 21 #11
they're negotiating the price. mopinko Nov 21 #14
It's always a new act in the circus for this crowd Prairie Gates Nov 21 #13
Huckleberry is serving Jebus's interests not ours. paleotn Nov 21 #16
But you have trump selling classified info like party favors Bayard Nov 21 #19
Agreeing with Carlson and Bannon is going to kill me. Grins Nov 21 #20
OMFG! Deep State Witch Nov 21 #21
Hasn't Pollard served his time and is now a free man? Why the angst? question everything Nov 21 #22
"Why the angst?" BumRushDaShow Nov 21 #23
Pollard is a private man. He is not involved in any foreign policy and, as he said, met for personal question everything Nov 21 #24
I know you like to BumRushDaShow Nov 21 #25
How? Stealing secrets, from where? And transferring to whom? question everything Nov 21 #37
Think this - BumRushDaShow Nov 21 #38
Not Surprising. Huckabee is an Evangelical Doomsday Cultist. They see Israel as pivotal in the Second Coming. ChicagoTeamster Nov 21 #26
KICK orangecrush Nov 21 #28
Probably trying to arrange the next sale of our documents. Bluetus Nov 21 #29
Pollard gave away the crown jewels -- and the names of our agents and contacts. Kid Berwyn Nov 21 #31
The End is Near trusty elf Nov 21 #32
The Drumpf administration is such a catastrophe. trusty elf Nov 21 #33
They didn't get their cut? 58Sunliner Nov 21 #39

unweird

(3,268 posts)
2. Huckleberry is going for "the rapture"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:46 AM
Nov 21
Huckleberry is going for "the rapture"


Many of these outrageous acts by these christo-fascists are in support of that very thing.

Clouds Passing

(6,652 posts)
7. They are actually doing this
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:44 AM
Nov 21
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/readings/forcing.html


“A longing for the rapture and the return of Jesus on Earth is at the core of Evangelicalism. The fact that we are coincidentally approaching a millennial milestone in the human calendar certainly adds to this yearning and to the sense of anticipation felt by believers of all faiths. Most fundamentalists assume that we are living on the edge of human history in any case, and that modern events in the Middle East are fulfillments of prophecies made some two thousand years ago by Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, and John, among others. These prophecies require three great events before the Messiah can return: the nation of Israel must be restored; Jerusalem must be a Jewish city; and the Temple, the center of worship and sacrifice in the ancient Jewish world, which was last destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D., must be rebuilt. Two of these conditions have been met in the last fifty years.”

Ilsa

(63,658 posts)
17. The Christian extremists are supposed to be
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:35 AM
Nov 21

practicing "evangelism" not evangelicalism. The former is about spreading the gospel of Christ, not manipulating political events to destroy the world.

I think as these older Christians get closer to inevitable death, they hope for the biblical apocalypse. Somehow, it's all going to be easier for them. They've been saying it for two thousand years.

Clouds Passing

(6,652 posts)
35. People truly believe this myth...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 07:15 PM
Nov 21

I knew a couple who talked about the rapture with stars in their eyes. They were so excited to talk about the rapture coming. These are educated people. For them to believe in such fantasies is frightening frankly..

Figarosmom

(9,266 posts)
40. I wish there were a Rapture.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:47 AM
Nov 22

At this point it would be more like a purge of all the bad if it took all the people that believed.

JHB

(37,874 posts)
41. When the occasion comes up, I inform them the Rapture already happened
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:30 AM
Nov 22

June 18, 1998. Only a small sect ascended, 47 people total. The rest of us are all the Left Behind.

I mean, it certainly explains why we're in The Worst Timeline.

enigmania

(392 posts)
42. I love telling them that.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 07:48 AM
Nov 22

I also love telling the white supremacists that they 'don't look that white to me'.

soldierant

(9,184 posts)
36. The key phrase is "supposed to be."
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 07:24 PM
Nov 21

They are supposed to be doing a whole lot of things of which they are doing the opposite. Evangelism is just one of those things.

slightlv

(7,132 posts)
18. I was just talking yestwrday about the
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:39 AM
Nov 21

two religious groups trying each in their own way to invoke the Rapture. Yesterday's news was the NAR... the charismatic fringe groups aka Dominionists. They're trying to do it domestically.

The othet group is Huckabees... the fringe evangelicals. They're trying both to provoke war in the ME and "need" to covert 'x' number of Jesw to Christianity to get their rapture started.

Unfortunately, these fringe religionists will end up killing us all just to get their jollies off. Politics and religion... bad bedfellows!

slightlv

(7,132 posts)
30. I'll agree we do seem to have more than our share around here! (LOL)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:38 PM
Nov 21

And even some of the more hardline mainstreamers, too... like an Opus Dei house and the Lutheran Synod, tho I have no connection or direct knowledge of them and their practices in this area.

Unfortunately, I believe we are seeing the fringe elements seeded all across the country... purposely.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,134 posts)
9. the "rapture" is all BS -
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:06 AM
Nov 21

it's the RWRE goal
they think that if they ruin everything jesus will
come back and the magical sky daddy will make everything great
here is the reality

rurallib

(64,462 posts)
12. Thanks for that - it was quite enlightening
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:07 AM
Nov 21

Couldn't help but notice the comics in the background. What I have been telling folks for years is that the bible was the ancient's comic books.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(131,512 posts)
34. Yep
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:33 PM
Nov 21

Funny thing is "the rapture" wasn't part of Christian theology till John Nelson Darby invented it in the 19th century.

BumRushDaShow

(164,031 posts)
4. He's recently been "isolationalist" as well as "nativist"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:50 AM
Nov 21

So he wants the U.S. cut off from anything overseas, by any means necessary.

sop

(17,051 posts)
6. From the MEDIAite article at link:
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:21 AM
Nov 21

"Huckabee, President Trump's envoy to Israel, met at the United States Embassy in Jerusalem in July with Jonathan J. Pollard, an American who spent 30 years in prison for spying for Israel, Mr. Pollard said. The highly unusual meeting caught some U.S. officials by surprise, and appeared to be a sharp break with years of precedent for American diplomats."

Was Trump one of the U.S. officials "caught by surprise," or did he order the "highly unusual" meeting? And how does Netenyahu figure into all of this?

The article at link is excellent.

Prairie Gates

(6,928 posts)
13. It's always a new act in the circus for this crowd
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:10 AM
Nov 21

That Jonathan Pollard is a piece of human dogshit who is lucky to be out of federal prison is something that almost all Americans can agree on, right or left. There's a few stragglers on this point, as there are on all points, but it's a fairly universal sentiment.

paleotn

(21,287 posts)
16. Huckleberry is serving Jebus's interests not ours.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:25 AM
Nov 21

Fundigelicals cannot be trusted with anything, ever. They'll molest your children and sell out their country, all before breakfast.

Bayard

(28,037 posts)
19. But you have trump selling classified info like party favors
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:45 AM
Nov 21

If Mike is sharing secrets he better get paid for them so he can pay trump.

Grins

(9,158 posts)
20. Agreeing with Carlson and Bannon is going to kill me.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:48 AM
Nov 21

I’ve hated Pollard for decades!!! Israel for years denied he spied on the U.S. One of the deniers - Netanyahu!

Israel, during the Reagan years, tried to get him a pardon and got a huge pushback from Intel community. Didn’t try at all under Bush I , as he was a former director of the CIA. And Bush knew what pollard had done.

When he was released from prison, he was tossed out of the U.S.
A private jet flew him to Israel.
Who greeted him on arrival? Netanyahu! Who hugged him.

Israel was behind this, going back to the early 70’s. He is just one of the many reasons I no longer give a shit about Israel.

Deep State Witch

(12,488 posts)
21. OMFG!
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:13 PM
Nov 21

The Pollard scandal happened just before I got to NSA. I don't care if he's Jewish or not - he took an oath to protect U.S. intelligence sources and methods. He is an Oathbreaker.

BumRushDaShow

(164,031 posts)
23. "Why the angst?"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:30 PM
Nov 21

The "strange bedfellows".

Huckleberry is an AMBASSADOR, NOT the Secretary of State (who is already a zombie loon). But if he is doing the bidding of the SOS, then that is concerning and if it is a "personal thing" (which some reports suggest), it's even more concerning -

White House was unaware US ambassador to Israel met with convicted spy
By Reuters


November 20, 2025 4:04 PM EST Updated 20 hours ago

WASHINGTON, Nov 20 (Reuters) - The White House was unaware of a meeting between U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee and Jonathan Pollard, the former U.S. Navy analyst who spent three decades in prison for spying for Israel, spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said on Thursday.

The New York Times reported on Thursday that Huckabee met Pollard in July at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. The meeting was kept off Huckabee's official schedule and caught U.S. officials by surprise, the Times reported.

Leavitt told reporters that although the administration had no advance knowledge of the encounter, “the president stands by our ambassador, Mike Huckabee, and all that he is doing for the United States and Israel.”

Pollard, in an interview with an Israeli news channel, said the meeting with Huckabee took place at his request. “I had originally requested the interview for a very personal reason,” he said to Israel's i24 News. “I wanted to express my sincere appreciation for all the efforts that he had expended on my behalf when I was in prison.” Huckabee, while running for the Republican presidential nomination in 2011, advocated for Pollard's release.

(snip)

question everything

(51,477 posts)
24. Pollard is a private man. He is not involved in any foreign policy and, as he said, met for personal
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:35 PM
Nov 21

reasons. The meeting did not send any message about any policy, foreign or domestic.

So, again, why the angst?

BumRushDaShow

(164,031 posts)
25. I know you like to
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:44 PM
Nov 21

"question everything"

But -

He is not involved in any foreign policy


He might be now...

(remember the administration we are dealing with)

question everything

(51,477 posts)
37. How? Stealing secrets, from where? And transferring to whom?
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:36 PM
Nov 21

Is Huckabee a foreign agent?

What always bothered me, and I mentioned it to my letters to Clinton, asking for release, was that Pollard, Ames (a CIA counter intelligence officer) and Hansen (An FBI agent) all sentenced to life for spying. But while Aldrich and Ames spied for the Soviet Union, providing names of US agents some were executed, Pollard spied for an ally. More or less.

From Wikipedia

Dennis B. Ross said in 2004: "Pollard received a harsher sentence than others who committed comparable crimes". Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger stated that "[t]he Pollard matter was comparatively minor. It was made far bigger than its actual importance." Stephen Fain Williams, a Senior Circuit Judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit stated: "Jonathan Pollard's life sentence represents a fundamental miscarriage of justice". In December 2010, former U.S. assistant Secretary of Defense Lawrence Korb said: "In retrospect, we know that an injustice was done to Pollard ... the man is very sick and should be released before it is too late."[118] Some of the accusations against Pollard can be traced to CIA mole Aldrich Ames,[126] who allegedly blamed Pollard to clear himself of suspicion.[127] Rafi Eitan, Pollard's Israeli handler, stated that Pollard never exposed American agents in the USSR or elsewhere. Eitan said he believed Ames tried to blame Pollard to clear himself of suspicion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Pollard

BumRushDaShow

(164,031 posts)
38. Think this -
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:53 PM
Nov 21


Trump's plans for a 'Riviera of the Middle East' in Gaza condemned

"There are no permanent 'friends', nor permanent 'enemies' but permanent 'interests'".

Pollard can be an alternate conduit to Netanyahu via a quid pro quo executed by Huckleberry hound.

ChicagoTeamster

(266 posts)
26. Not Surprising. Huckabee is an Evangelical Doomsday Cultist. They see Israel as pivotal in the Second Coming.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 12:58 PM
Nov 21

They want to make it happen in their lifetime. They believe the existence of Israel is required for the second coming and that God gave the land to the Jewish people. That's why American Evangelicals gave red heifers as a gift to Israel. Always trying to finagle fulfillment of prophecy.

Kid Berwyn

(22,457 posts)
31. Pollard gave away the crown jewels -- and the names of our agents and contacts.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 01:45 PM
Nov 21

Ten volume set of how NSA gathers sigint. Thousands of humint became humtoast.

When Friends Spy on Friends

https://adst.org/2016/08/friends-spy-friends-case-jonathan-pollard/

trusty elf

(7,533 posts)
33. The Drumpf administration is such a catastrophe.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 03:10 PM
Nov 21

How embarrassing it is that this clown is an ambassador.

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