US justice department memo about boat strikes diverges from Trump narrative
Source: The Guardian
Tue 25 Nov 2025 18.45 EST
Last modified on Tue 25 Nov 2025 18.46 EST
The Trump administration is framing its boat strikes against drug cartels in the Caribbean in part as a collective self-defense effort on behalf of US allies in the region, according to three people directly familiar with the administrations internal legal argument. The legal analysis rests on a premise for which there is no immediate public evidence that the cartels are waging armed violence against the security forces of allies like Mexico, and that the violence is financed by cocaine shipments.
As a result, according to the legal analysis, the strikes are targeting the cocaine, and the deaths of anyone on board should be treated as an enemy casualty or collateral damage if any civilians are killed, rather than murder. That line of reasoning, which forms the backbone of a classified justice department office of legal counsel (OLC) opinion, provides the clearest explanation to date how the US satisfied the conditions to use lethal force.
But it marks a sharp departure from Donald Trumps narrative to the public every time he has discussed the 21 strikes that have killed more than 80 people, which he has portrayed as an effort to stop overdose deaths. A White House official responded that Trump has not been making a legal argument.
Still, Trumps remarks remain the only public reason for why the US is firing missiles when the legal justification is in fact very different. And it would also be the first time the US has claimed dubiously, and contrary to the widely held understanding that the cartels are using cocaine proceeds to wage wars, rather than to make money.
Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/25/trump-caribbean-boat-strikes-memo
70sEraVet
(5,160 posts)why they are blowing up the boats and killing people, rather than trying to stop and make arrests.
Unless they are afraid that there might not be drugs aboard.
I believe trump has been pushing to instigate a war.
After all, what's the point of having a Department of War?
slightlv
(7,128 posts)And then they find out that's mainly china... so now the blame cocaine? Don Jr must be crushed with his daddy blowing up all his blow!
Bayard
(28,025 posts)Its all provocation to start a war.
"It principally argues that the US has entered an armed conflict with the cartels because it is helping allies in the region like Mexico and Colombia, which, according to an administration official, asked for US help confidentially for fear of reprisals."
Lies, lies, lies. Mexico's president has already said--STAY OUT!
slightlv
(7,128 posts)You can state unequivocally that you're helping your allies, when they have stated several times to stay out of the country, and plainly looked you in the face and talked about their "country's Sovereignty" To do anything FOR them that in any way negates that, means you've declared war on your "ally." IMO.
KS Toronado
(22,340 posts)The International Criminal Court in The Hague, The United Nations, NATO, and other Countries are all
saying bombing boats without talking to them first is illegal orders.
Meanwhile they're trying to convince die hard MAGAts (only ones still loyal to him) that all orders coming
out his ass are legal and a few of them are probably crazy enough to attempt to shoot Mark Kelly for
brownie points from IQ4.7.