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LetMyPeopleVote

(173,257 posts)
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:07 PM 14 hrs ago

President Donald Trump says he's terminating all orders Biden signed with autopen

Source: ABC7

WASHINGTON, DC -- President Donald Trump said on Friday that any document signed by former President Joe Biden using an autopen "is hereby terminated."

"I am hereby cancelling all Executive Orders, and anything else that was not directly signed by Crooked Joe Biden," Trump posted on his social media platform.

It is unclear which orders Trump is referencing and how he is making those determinations. ABC News has reached out to the White House for more information.

Trump claimed that the people who "operated the Autopen did so illegally." But the Justice Department's legal counsel states that autopens are lawful for signing bills into law.

The president has repeatedly fixated on Biden's use of the autopen. In June, Trump claimed Biden aides illegally used the autopen to carry out "radical" policies and ordered the Justice Department and White House to investigate Biden's mental state when he was in office. At the time, Biden issued a statement to ABC News calling the probe "nothing more than a mere distraction."

"Let me be clear: I made the decisions during my presidency. I made the decisions about the pardons, executive orders, legislation, and proclamations. Any suggestion that I didn't is ridiculous and false," Biden said in the June statement.

Read more: https://abc7.com/post/president-donald-trump-says-hes-terminating-orders-joe-biden-signed-autopen/18223066/

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President Donald Trump says he's terminating all orders Biden signed with autopen (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago OP
Two Words Donald: Get Help! Chasstev365 14 hrs ago #1
I would choose two different words. Harker 14 hrs ago #2
Is the second one "off?" The Madcap 14 hrs ago #5
Oh, yes! Harker 14 hrs ago #6
Either that or "painfully". Grown2Hate 10 hrs ago #29
Great minds think alike orangecrush 11 hrs ago #16
Evidently we do, too. Harker 11 hrs ago #19
Nope - wrong two......... MyOwnPeace 14 hrs ago #4
As your presidency falls apart and 2026 looms, fight the last war again bucolic_frolic 14 hrs ago #3
trump is scared of the latest polling numbers LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #7
How long will the media normalize this stuff? How long will the Country enough 14 hrs ago #8
Why Trump Can't 'Void' Biden's Pardons Because of Autopen LetMyPeopleVote 14 hrs ago #9
Thanks for this info Bayard 7 hrs ago #36
Does this change anything I wonder? mahina 14 hrs ago #10
And I invalidate all your J6 pardons. Get real. sinkingfeeling 14 hrs ago #11
The fascist nazi pig was going to do it anyway he just came up with another brainless excuse to do so. nt yaesu 13 hrs ago #12
He is so insecure he has to try to wipe out history Attilatheblond 13 hrs ago #13
99.9999% chance that any order he does to that effect will be signed with his autopen. RockCreek 13 hrs ago #14
It doesn't work that way... FloridaBlues 13 hrs ago #15
Biden Derangement Syndrome. AKA, Psychological... ColoringFool 11 hrs ago #17
Or... Gregory1230 10 hrs ago #27
Ex Post Facto BidenRocks 11 hrs ago #18
This shit is NOT his idea duckworth969 11 hrs ago #20
i cannot wait for the oompah lompa to be DELETED and overturned. pansypoo53219 11 hrs ago #21
"Making up shit as we go!" WestMichRad 11 hrs ago #22
Is he testing the legal waters? JohnnyRingo 10 hrs ago #23
There is video of trump admitting to using autopen LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #24
My question popsdenver 10 hrs ago #25
He's just committing more crimes Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #26
Justice Department quietly replaced 'identical' Trump signatures on recent pardons Norrrm 10 hrs ago #28
Autopenis? BattleRow 9 hrs ago #33
Geez...the orange idiot is himself just an auto pen... LaRaven 10 hrs ago #30
I hope he autopenned "feed Trump". GreenWave 9 hrs ago #31
I'm surprised he hasn't demanded a crown and royal scepter yet. Quanta 9 hrs ago #32
Thus, the first law of Trumpism kicks in... Hugin 9 hrs ago #34
Why doesn't he just fucking die already? Orrex 8 hrs ago #35
Lawsuits Will Come in an Avalanche MissouriDem47 6 hrs ago #37

bucolic_frolic

(53,470 posts)
3. As your presidency falls apart and 2026 looms, fight the last war again
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:16 PM
14 hrs ago

It's grasping at straws for a disintegrating and damaged ego

enough

(13,676 posts)
8. How long will the media normalize this stuff? How long will the Country
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:22 PM
14 hrs ago

tolerate his disrespect?

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,257 posts)
9. Why Trump Can't 'Void' Biden's Pardons Because of Autopen
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 04:24 PM
14 hrs ago

trump uses the autopen for his pardons and other documents. trump has no power to void any of President Biden's orders or pardons

Why Trump Can’t ‘Void’ Biden’s Pardons Because of Autopen

Trump signaled that he intends to nullify all
presidential pardons—issued by Biden

time.com/7268902/trum...

Tara O'Grady (@taraogrady.bsky.social) 2025-03-18T10:56:51.188Z

https://time.com/7268902/trump-void-bidens-pardon-autopen/

But according to the U.S. Constitution, the President has no such authority to overturn his predecessor’s pardons, especially not based on the type of signature, legal experts say. “The Constitution doesn't even require that the pardon be written, so the idea that the signature is by autopen rather than by handwritten signature seems not relevant to the constitutionality because Article II just says that the President has the power to pardon,” says Bernadette Meyler, a Stanford Law School professor and constitutional law expert.

Autopen is an electronic signature that allows individuals to sign a document without physically being there. The signature mimics a handwritten signature, but is done by a computer. A vast number of statutes and other documents have been signed by autopen, experts say. For instance, former President Barack Obama signed a national security measure via autopen while he was in France. Meyler says that if presidential pardons were to be invalidated because of an autopen signature, that could bring into question other policies that were signed by such measures. “When so much is being automated and put online, requiring some literalness in the signature really would be a step backwards," she says.

A 2005 guidance from the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) noted that a President does not need to “personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill he approves and decides to sign in order for the bill to become law. Rather, the President may sign a bill within the meaning of Article I, Section 7 by directing a subordinate to affix the President’s signature to such a bill, for example by autopen.”

Jeffrey Crouch, a professor at American University, told Axios that pardons are final so long as they are valid......

If Trump were to try to prosecute someone who received a presidential pardon, experts say the case would likely go to courts, where Trump’s actions are unlikely to stand. “I can't imagine the court saying that it wasn't a valid pardon because of the autopen issue,” says Meyler. “Biden made statements regarding these pardons, so it would be hard to show that they weren't a decision of the President.”

Bayard

(28,007 posts)
36. Thanks for this info
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 11:17 PM
7 hrs ago

There is no way trump has signed all of his pardons and executive orders himself, although I'm betting Miller has gotten pretty good at forging his signature.

He hates Presidents Biden and Obama, more than he loves anything--if he was even capable of that emotion. He just vomits up, "The World According To trump", and thinks that makes whatever he wants, true.

yaesu

(8,840 posts)
12. The fascist nazi pig was going to do it anyway he just came up with another brainless excuse to do so. nt
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:11 PM
13 hrs ago

Attilatheblond

(7,919 posts)
13. He is so insecure he has to try to wipe out history
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:14 PM
13 hrs ago

Women's History Month
Black History Month
Anything Biden signed

What's next? We know he and Sick Puppy Stephen Miller want the Bill of Rights & Constitution gone, along with courts that won't rubber stamp their fascist crap.

RockCreek

(1,201 posts)
14. 99.9999% chance that any order he does to that effect will be signed with his autopen.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 05:27 PM
13 hrs ago

That would be par for him and the toe-jam in this administration.

Gregory1230

(77 posts)
27. Or...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 08:33 PM
10 hrs ago

I would like to add for “Trump Defense Syndrome” (TDefS) which worse than BDS because TDefS is more serious. I sometimes I inform any MAGA supporters explaining they have TDefS and needs to get professional help or/and nuthouse. I typed TDefS to avoid confusing for original TDS. Anyway that syndrome is very serious mental disorder. 😂👍😀

duckworth969

(1,018 posts)
20. This shit is NOT his idea
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:03 PM
11 hrs ago

Miller, Cheung, Vought, et al. They’re not the brain trust, they’re co-president(s).

Hell, Chumpkin is probably dead. The only reason it seems like he’s talking is because Bannon has his hand up his ass.

JohnnyRingo

(20,317 posts)
23. Is he testing the legal waters?
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 07:58 PM
10 hrs ago

As in if he can get away with this he can end or enact laws unilaterally. He'll say the same of Obama.

I'm no lawyer, but I don't see how this will pass the 1st court.

Norrrm

(3,564 posts)
28. Justice Department quietly replaced 'identical' Trump signatures on recent pardons
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 08:34 PM
10 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143565579

Blames it on "technical errors".

What technical error could put the wrong signature on a document?

LaRaven

(215 posts)
30. Geez...the orange idiot is himself just an auto pen...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 08:47 PM
10 hrs ago

He has no idea what he signs - just likes put his signature on paper. He’s also just a media whore that wanted to stay out of jail.

Quanta

(264 posts)
32. I'm surprised he hasn't demanded a crown and royal scepter yet.
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:08 PM
9 hrs ago

You know this demented fuck is just dying to get fitted with his own red cloak with obnoxious fur collar.

Hugin

(37,197 posts)
34. Thus, the first law of Trumpism kicks in...
Fri Nov 28, 2025, 09:30 PM
9 hrs ago
Every accusation is a confession.


“Trump claimed Biden aides illegally used the autopen to carry out "radical" policies…”



I am going to suppose that there’s a scandal here that someday we may learn about. President Miller? Patel? Shady? Suzi Wiles? All of those?

Ultimately, Trump is going to try to use it as an out. Like to claim that he never signed the law to release the Epstein Files, for instance.
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