which made some airlines halt flights; and the Venezuelan government, annoyed that they hadn't said "damn the Trump sabre-rattling, we've got a right to fly there", said "well you can't come back". This is now laying the excuses for random Trumpian killing on land (or even in the air) in Venezuela.

Shoot down civilian aircraft?

all the while claiming it was a drug plane full of narco terrorist, the big question would be, would a US commander and or a US fighter pilot implement such an illegal order?

My guess would be, no.

Shoot down a civilian plane. Claim it carried drug cartel members and human traffickers.

Who will stop Trump or bring him to justice? No one.

I disagree on the implementation.
We now know the US military will obey these kind of orders from the Trump Crime Syndicate.

Trump directly threatened the US generals with loss of rank, pension, and court martial.

They will bend the knee and kiss ass.

The military you and I knew is no longer.

I don't think there's anything stopping him
from going as low and criminal as he wants...

and he's a crazed psychopath who loves
the idea of war and using nukes.

but would a commander or a fighter pilot actually follow such an order, especially if it's positively identifed as a civilian passenger plane.

I've got to believe that this order would be "ignored".
That is my hope.

might temper Trump's desire to blow up planes
and target Venezuela.

However, I'm not sure how much of a help Russia
can be after becoming weakened by its war with
Ukraine.

are the technicians to train the Ven. military on how to use, operate and maintain the SAM systems that they've promised to deliver to the Venezuelans and, much as I dislike saying this, but you can bet your bottom dollar that any Air Defense systems in Ven. are already targeted, the only thing that might give Pedonald pause is if there's a chance that Russian techs. would be injured or killed and I'm not even sure that would stop him.

and no real sense of judgment... due both to his psychopathy
and his dementia.

And if there is anyone or anything that could stop him, I'm
not sure they would be in place.

I would hope the same but I would not depend on it.

Innocent people will suffer and die including US troops.

Republican party is evil.

Great work MAGA assholes.

Or wait until they are conscripted?

Flown in by air.

Would he order a 747 full of passengers shot down?

And I think Cheeto pardoned that terrorist.

Troops have to know every aircraft they see is friendly. It also prevents the enemy from launching attacks against the ground forces.
I guarantee this isn't something he came up with on his own. It came from the Pentagon tasked with a plan of invasion.

Well now. Here's another one of those wars Mr Peacemaker can end.

allies.

Height of foolishness.

You think Russia, who can't even invade and conquer a nation right on their door step, are going to engage US forces in our own back yard?
Of course not, they're not stupid, the Generals and Admirals know it would be a disaster and humiliation for them.

And what about China?
China certainly isn't going to send combat troops or the PLAN into our back yard, the same thing would happen and the Chinese are no fools.

About the only thing they can do is go the UN to denounce this illegal action, which we all know, will amount to nothing, considering the US can veto any proposed actions.

I am hoping cooler heads step in and say no, but the reality of the situation is that if Pedonald does order an invasion of Ven., there is very little militarily that either Russia or China can do to stop it.

Seeing as how effective they've been in Ukraine. And then Venezuela would wage a prolonged guerilla war against US troops from the jungles and mountains.

but we know that Pedonald doesn't give 2 shits about the military, I guess he misses the "good ole days" of US coffins landing at Dover AFB.

What a great way to deflect from the Epstein scandal a every other illegal action he's taken.
SCOTUS, Roberts, sure screwed America with their ridiculous immunity ruling.

Fucking Congress needs to step in and put a stop to this illegal regime.

It's not only Pedonald who doesn't give 2 shits about the military, we can add Whiskey Pete, every Service Secretary, and every member of the Joint Chiefs!

General Caine has been marching in lockstep with the Trump since he came back from retirement, and I doubt if the other members of the Joint Chiefs are any better!

As for Congress, they've been allowing Trump to do what he wants and they won't do anything to stop him!

The US military is now being commanded by officers who are politicians wearing uniforms!

why do you attack 'alleged' drug traffickers while pardoning a CONVICTED drug trafficker?

Congress has not declared war, nor has it funded the war. There is no emergency to authorize the President to bypass Congress. Putin has announced that Russia is sending troops to help defend Venezuela. This will get ugly fast. Who is there to keep the lid on?

the personnel being sent are more likely technicians to teach the Ven. military how to operate the systems Russia is attempting to send.
Russia is not going to engage any US combat forces, they can't even take over a country on their own border, much less defend Ven.

Lets hope that Pedonald is doing his usual stirring up shit while trying to strong arm Ven. into doing what he wants them to do.

Indeed, I hope you are. But how would that make Putin look after making a big deal out of it? He would have to somehow save face, but how?

The Epstein Files.

International Law?
INTERNATIONAL LAW?
We don't need no stinkin' international law.

... with Venezuela. A country can't "close the airspace" of another country, on its own. What does the UN say? What does the US Congress say? We keep blowing up boats, which Crooked Donald claims are filled with illegal drugs. Where is the proof? Why do the boats keep coming?