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BumRushDaShow

(164,008 posts)
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 04:02 PM 17 hrs ago

Major 401(k) Changes Being Considered By Congress

Last edited Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Newsweek

Published Nov 29, 2025 at 12:30 PM EST


Congress is weighing a plan that could let workers move money from their 401(k) plans into personal annuities without leaving their jobs, in a shift that could reshape how Americans save for retirement.

The proposal, which was reintroduced in the House this week and has now been referred to a Congressional committee, would amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for "in-service rollovers," giving employees more flexibility to lock in guaranteed income through annuities while still employed. The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) told Newsweek it does not comment on pending legislation.

Why It Matters

A bipartisan push from Democratic Representative Jimmy Panetta of California and Republican Representative Darin LaHood of Illinois, which was referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means on Friday, aims to address growing concerns over market uncertainty and longevity risk by allowing workers to secure lifetime income.

If enacted, this initiative would represent one of the most substantial overhauls to the retirement savings system since the SECURE 2.0 Act was signed into law by Joe Biden.

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/401k-changes-considered-congress-11128887



Link to Rep. Rep. Panetta PRESS RELEASE - Panetta, LaHood Reintroduce Bipartisan Legislation to Simplify Retirement Savings Options for Seniors
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lostnfound

(17,325 posts)
4. Exactly. Value of the dollar is falling terrible time to convert stock to an annuity?
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:14 PM
16 hrs ago

I’m no planner but this seems opposite of what makes sense.

dickthegrouch

(4,201 posts)
3. Why am I so certain that it will cost more?
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:00 PM
16 hrs ago

At least corporate contracts can keep the management fees in check.

If we're to be at the mercy of our individual money managers and their corporate suckers^H^H^H^H^H^H^H masters, I'm betting fees will soon be closer to 5% than 1.5%, with no commensurate tax breaks.

A guarantee of lifelong value loss as opposed to a reasonable chance of a lifelong gain as per currently.

Starfury

(855 posts)
5. How does this make sense?
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:17 PM
16 hrs ago

Annuitizing while still working? 401k should be a financial vehicle to grow over the long haul while working, not generate (presumably unrealized) income before retirement. Seems like this is in the same bad category as taking out a loan from your 401k, which can significantly harm long term growth.

And "locking in" an annuity prior to retirement? Unless this "secure income" is annually adjusted for inflation, the value of the annuity will be steadily eroded before you've even retired, much less be able to meaningfully support a 30-year retirement. The insurance industry stopped offering inflation-adjusted annuities around 2018 because the industry decided they couldn't (or weren't willing to) afford them, so I doubt that's what's being considered now.

Besides, folks with healthy 401ks and the like are already far better positioned to financially support retirement. And that's not even accounting for the costs and fees and fine print that will be involved, like mentioned above. There are times and circumstances when annuitizing can be worthwhile, and folks can already partially annuitize tax deferred accounts. Is there really a compelling need case here?

This doesn't make any sense to me. Seems like a gift to the insurance industry.

BumRushDaShow

(164,008 posts)
6. I usually try to include a press release from bill sponsors, etc., in my OPs if there is one
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:38 PM
16 hrs ago

but I have been running around today swapping out seasonal decor and doing errands and whatnot.

I just added it to the OP comments.

Here is the press release link that explains what they are talking about - Panetta, LaHood Reintroduce Bipartisan Legislation to Simplify Retirement Savings Options for Seniors

Autumn

(48,690 posts)
8. When I see the word "bipartisan" with some repiglican I get nervous. Because I really think
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 05:53 PM
15 hrs ago

someone's getting fucked and it wont be anybody wealthy.

mdbl

(7,902 posts)
11. Annuities are complex in that each insurance company has different rules
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 08:30 PM
13 hrs ago

You really have to research them to know what you are getting. They also don't offer much of a hedge on inflation except for letting you buy down the first year or two then increasing it a little every year after that. Also, any extra money your annuity makes while in the annuity pool is pocketed by the insurance carrier along with a bunch of possible fees.

mdbl

(7,902 posts)
9. Why not let Regular IRA's roll over to Roth IRA's tax free?
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 07:33 PM
14 hrs ago

That would really help. They could cap it at a certain amount each year. Of course, they won't do that.

Karma13612

(4,897 posts)
10. I think that after a certain age,
Sat Nov 29, 2025, 08:01 PM
13 hrs ago

any money left in your 401K (ie pretax money) investment should not be taxed upon withdrawing.

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