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Mr. Sparkle

(3,650 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:43 PM 12 hrs ago

"Needs to get the hell out": House Dems fume at Schumer

Source: Axios

House Democrats found themselves in the familiar position this week of seething at Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) for negotiating a deal with Republicans to keep the government funded.

While his caucus remains behind him, Schumer is becoming persona non grata for much of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. "I'm gonna continue to tell you that Schumer needs to get the hell out over and over and over until he does," Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-Ill.) told Axios. "He continues to demonstrate to us that he can't meet the moment," she added.Another House Democrat, speaking on the condition of anonymity to offer insights into private conversations among lawmakers, told Axios: "The main feeling among members is a lack of trust in his strength and ability to strike a hard bargain."

The House voted Tuesday to pass an appropriations package that funds the Departments of Defense, Health and Human Services, Labor, Housing and Urban Development, State and Transportation until September. It also keeps the Department of Homeland Security funded at 2025 levels until Feb. 13, which is meant to give Senate Democrats and the White House enough time to hash out a final deal on ICE and Customs and Border Protection reforms. But while Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) have said they won't accept anything short of reforms of those agencies, their GOP counterparts have cast doubt on the prospect of a quick deal. Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) went so far as to tell reporters that a deal by Feb. 13 was an "impossibility," floating a year-long stopgap funding bill to keep DHS open.

What they're saying: Jeffries has essentially threatened to allow a DHS shutdown if his demands aren't met, saying in a statement Tuesday, "Absent bold and meaningful change, there is no credible path forward with respect to the Department of Homeland Security funding bill next week." But Schumer, asked if he would make the same ultimatum at a press conference with Jeffries on Wednesday, told reporters, "I'm just going to say we're sending them a proposal and we await their response." Senate Democrats — unlike their House counterparts — have the ability to block a DHS funding bill because it takes a 60-vote majority to pass it in the upper chamber. Some Democrats, worried that the threat of a DHS shutdown is not enough to force Republicans to the table, feel Schumer gave up the party's best leverage by cutting a deal to reopen the rest of the government. "Every time that we are winning, we seem to somehow sabotage [it]," Ramirez fumed, noting that House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has already ruled out several Democratic demands.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/05/democrats-schumer-ice-government-shutdown?utm_medium=organic_social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_source=x

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"Needs to get the hell out": House Dems fume at Schumer (Original Post) Mr. Sparkle 12 hrs ago OP
Alls I hope for is an A.O.C. primary. 3Hotdogs 12 hrs ago #1
Please explain because I don't understand your post. Ferrets are Cool 11 hrs ago #9
Pretty Sure... GB_RN 10 hrs ago #24
I get it orangecrush 10 hrs ago #31
Ms Ocasio-Cortez... GiqueCee 11 hrs ago #13
Speculation is that AOC may primary Schumer BaronChocula 10 hrs ago #22
Now THAT... GiqueCee 9 hrs ago #47
But...but...she used to work at a bar!!! ECL213 10 hrs ago #25
Speaker John Boehner Seinan Sensei 10 hrs ago #35
Did she fail a centrist purity test? Emile 10 hrs ago #21
Neocon... yourout 10 hrs ago #26
The AOC primary he is referring to means MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #36
It's a long way off, but if this happens BlueKota 10 hrs ago #38
He can't meet the moment because he can't understand the gravity NewHendoLib 12 hrs ago #2
He's a good guy, but he's playing old school, hoping the rethuig GOONS are willing to also play old school. bluestarone 12 hrs ago #3
The older Democrats see the Republicans as "fellow Gentlemen" They are like me, just a little different viewpoint LiberalArkie 12 hrs ago #5
Agree. bluestarone 11 hrs ago #6
This attitude... DemocracyForever 11 hrs ago #8
Go along to get along.. BattleRow 10 hrs ago #18
Yes he's a kind of "Bob Dole-Howard Baker" guy, which was fine if this were 1990 FakeNoose 11 hrs ago #12
My benefit of a doubt died orangecrush 10 hrs ago #29
He's used to dealing with politians MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #37
Agreed. BlueKota 9 hrs ago #39
I keep saying this, Miguelito Loveless 12 hrs ago #4
Right there with you. nt Phoenix61 11 hrs ago #11
Totally agree Scubamatt 10 hrs ago #34
The mistake is in thinking that Schumer is incapable of striking a hard bargain Prairie Gates 11 hrs ago #7
Smells Garlandish LuvLoogie 11 hrs ago #10
10-4 orangecrush 10 hrs ago #28
We are fighting under the Marquis of Queensbury rules. BidenRocks 11 hrs ago #14
They are shooting people in the face. littlemissmartypants 11 hrs ago #16
I cannot emphasize this enough angrychair 11 hrs ago #15
It takes backbone,NOT,wishbone. BattleRow 10 hrs ago #20
Ivory Tower thinking is literally killing people and giving Democrats littlemissmartypants 11 hrs ago #17
Pretty Much. GB_RN 10 hrs ago #19
And that butter knife is made of tissue paper durablend 5 hrs ago #49
Replace him wit AverageOldGuy 10 hrs ago #23
KILO & ROMEO orangecrush 10 hrs ago #27
I truly believe that there's a Democratic Senator that would be a better leader dem4decades 10 hrs ago #30
Ever since 9/11... tonekat 10 hrs ago #32
We've been putting up with this shit for years, sorry to say. hadEnuf 10 hrs ago #33
A brief overview of Republicans' role in the destruction of our country democrank 9 hrs ago #40
When will Dems learn... Snackshack 9 hrs ago #41
All of the old guard corporate Democrats need to go bob4460 9 hrs ago #42
What's in the proposal Shumer sent? Martin Eden 9 hrs ago #43
Someone alerted on the OP. Said "Support Democrats." Intractable 9 hrs ago #44
Someone else orangecrush 9 hrs ago #46
as someone who wants chuckie gone quakerboy 9 hrs ago #45
Agree with house Dems. It is time. republianmushroom 6 hrs ago #48

GB_RN

(3,529 posts)
24. Pretty Sure...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:16 PM
10 hrs ago

That the commenter is saying they wish to see Chucky primaried by AOC. Polls I’ve seen for a theoretical matchup of the two, show Chucky decisively losing to her. Losing by about 20 points.

GiqueCee

(3,613 posts)
13. Ms Ocasio-Cortez...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:41 PM
11 hrs ago

... is one of the smartest people in politics right now. I can see no worthwhile purpose in wishing her to be primaried. I, for one, would be happy to call her Madam President some day, if I live that long.

GiqueCee

(3,613 posts)
47. Now THAT...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 04:03 PM
9 hrs ago

... is an idea I can get behind! I wasn't aware that she was considering such action; that intent didn't seem clear in the original post. Thanks for the clarification.

MadameButterfly

(3,864 posts)
36. The AOC primary he is referring to means
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:00 PM
10 hrs ago

AOC primarying Schumer. I don't think anyone here is suggesting a primary of AOC's house seat.

NewHendoLib

(61,696 posts)
2. He can't meet the moment because he can't understand the gravity
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:53 PM
12 hrs ago

of the moment. Way too many politicians stay around way too long.

bluestarone

(21,621 posts)
3. He's a good guy, but he's playing old school, hoping the rethuig GOONS are willing to also play old school.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 12:59 PM
12 hrs ago

These GOONS have ZERO thought of playing old school. THEY have ZERO feelings for humanity. ZERO!!

LiberalArkie

(19,471 posts)
5. The older Democrats see the Republicans as "fellow Gentlemen" They are like me, just a little different viewpoint
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:04 PM
12 hrs ago

I do not think Schumer has ever met a Republican he did not like and trust. At least he acts like it.

bluestarone

(21,621 posts)
6. Agree.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:09 PM
11 hrs ago

His Hearts in the right place. BUT with these GOONS we need different more that that heart feeling, Sorry to say.

DemocracyForever

(49 posts)
8. This attitude...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:13 PM
11 hrs ago

is what's brought our country to the verge of becoming a Nazi dictatorship. This go along to get along, let's be nice crowd needs to be replaced with leaders who understand the gravity of the situation that our country is now in and are willing to make a stand to save our country. American democracy's very survival is at stake. The "nice" crowd seems to be oblivious to this ugly truth.

FakeNoose

(40,669 posts)
12. Yes he's a kind of "Bob Dole-Howard Baker" guy, which was fine if this were 1990
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:36 PM
11 hrs ago

But it's not 1990, and Bob Dole and Howard Baker are long gone. We're at the end of our rope and Chuck Schumer can't do anything but play nice. I'm sure the Repukes are taking advantage of that. There's no time for this anymore.

MadameButterfly

(3,864 posts)
37. He's used to dealing with politians
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:02 PM
10 hrs ago

This is a cult with. a malignant narcissits in the lead. They are menatally ill and cannot be reasonable, even in their own best interests.

BlueKota

(5,132 posts)
39. Agreed.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:18 PM
9 hrs ago

I am an older American too, and I believe a lot of elder states-people still have a lot to offer, but not the ones who insist on living in the past. I see Senator Schumer as still entrenched in the quaint notion that his colleagues with an R behind their names are still basically "good-hearted" people, who while misguided, can be made to see reason.

He's dreaming. The majority of Rs are either cowards or greedy, power-hungry scum, who will do anything their dear leader commands them to, no matter who gets hurt in the process. They sold their souls to tsf in 2016, and have most don't working conscience anymore.

Most of them would sell their own families out. Anyone who doesn't get that, imho, isn't dealing with reality, and is waving the white flag without even pretending to stand up for the people who voted for them to do so.

Miguelito Loveless

(5,530 posts)
4. I keep saying this,
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:00 PM
12 hrs ago

and people get mad at me for "attacking" Democrats. I am not being "realistic" about the politics in DC.

Scubamatt

(271 posts)
34. Totally agree
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:57 PM
10 hrs ago

Questioning established leadership in favor of more outspoken and vocal leaders like AOC or Jasmine Crocket can soemtimes be marginalized on this Board.

Prairie Gates

(7,530 posts)
7. The mistake is in thinking that Schumer is incapable of striking a hard bargain
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:11 PM
11 hrs ago

The truth is that he usually strikes exactly the bargain that he wants.

Do with that what you will.

BidenRocks

(2,936 posts)
14. We are fighting under the Marquis of Queensbury rules.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:49 PM
11 hrs ago

They are full UFC.
Please explain this concept to our elder statesmen!

angrychair

(11,885 posts)
15. I cannot emphasize this enough
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 01:59 PM
11 hrs ago

Democrats are on the precipice of a very good day in the next election cycle. A very good day.

That said, if Democrats in Congress cave to Republicans or fail to at least seem to hold ice accountable for everything and demand systemic changes, it will significantly harm voter participation.

I say that after listening to a video of a professional wrestling match in Las Vegas last night in which the crowd, the entire crowd, was chanting "fuck ice" over and over again. Professional wrestling is typically very pro Republican. Has been for decades.

The sentiment is there to hold ice accountable. It only takes the backbone to make it happen.

littlemissmartypants

(32,769 posts)
17. Ivory Tower thinking is literally killing people and giving Democrats
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:07 PM
11 hrs ago

A bad reputation with the yout [sic] everywhere regardless.

It's very frustrating & fucking embarrassing.

Thank you for the discussion, Mr. Sparkle.

❤️🤍💙
🗳❌️👑

GB_RN

(3,529 posts)
19. Pretty Much.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:10 PM
10 hrs ago

Chucky is playing by rules that were thrown out the window by the Groping Old Perverts and Newt Gingrich used his Contract ON (not with) America to win a House majority.

Basically, Chucky brings a butter knife to a gun fight.

dem4decades

(13,852 posts)
30. I truly believe that there's a Democratic Senator that would be a better leader
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:39 PM
10 hrs ago

Someone inspirational, Someone that recognizes that the Republicans are willing to flush the entire Constitution down the toilet for power. They don't deserve the deference Schumer allows them.

tonekat

(2,481 posts)
32. Ever since 9/11...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:53 PM
10 hrs ago

I've had a feeling that the GOP would try to actually outlaw the Democratic party.

I feel we're getting pretty close to that, and Schumer hasn't a clue.

hadEnuf

(3,563 posts)
33. We've been putting up with this shit for years, sorry to say.
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 02:54 PM
10 hrs ago

We were complaining about this before Pelosi finally had enough and got ugly with them. Even during Obama we were all complaining that he was trying to work with the right too much. I think he's learned since then though.

There is no compromise with the right. These people are bottom of the barrel neo-Nazis and white supremacists, while the rest of the so-called "normal" Republicans play see, hear and speak no evil. And I actually don't even think those ones really care how they get what they want as long as they get it.

democrank

(12,373 posts)
40. A brief overview of Republicans' role in the destruction of our country
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:19 PM
9 hrs ago

should be enough to convince Democrats that we need to be tougher. A lot tougher. Given all the present circumstances, we should be fighting back ferociously like our lives depend on it. We hear it over and over and over…..Democrats are weak. Time to disprove that criticism.

Snackshack

(2,576 posts)
41. When will Dems learn...
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:20 PM
9 hrs ago

No need for an opposition party when they have ppl like lieberman, fetterman, sinema, manchin and many others in the past to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory...

bob4460

(386 posts)
42. All of the old guard corporate Democrats need to go
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:25 PM
9 hrs ago

We HAVE to have new progressive leadership!

Martin Eden

(15,433 posts)
43. What's in the proposal Shumer sent?
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:48 PM
9 hrs ago

On that I would base my judgement on whether or not he's capable of driving a hard bargain.

Intractable

(1,747 posts)
44. Someone alerted on the OP. Said "Support Democrats."
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:49 PM
9 hrs ago

Too bad for the alerter.

Schumer is the one not supporting Democrats -- that is, me.

orangecrush

(29,295 posts)
46. Someone else
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:56 PM
9 hrs ago

Posted a thread claiming that if we aren't satisfied we are saying we aren't going to vote.

It was a great thread, like flypaper.

I won't be hearing from a long list of anti progressives.

Thanks to them for drawing them out.

quakerboy

(14,780 posts)
45. as someone who wants chuckie gone
Thu Feb 5, 2026, 03:55 PM
9 hrs ago

And is still pissed he gave us up in the end ofvthe first shutdown..

Can someone please explain to me why funding depts of housing, transportation, health, etc but not dhs is a bad thing?

Isn't that a selective shutdown of one ofvthe most corrupt departments without harming all the good workers of our government, or the people who need government to function for their continued safety and livelyhood?

In my book.. a dhs shutdown while the rest of government keeps going seems preferable to a full shutdown or the kind of weak deal that chuck normally takes

It seems like the only downside is ice is pre-funded for a good while. What am i missing?

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