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BumRushDaShow

(167,810 posts)
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:05 AM 23 hrs ago

Supreme Court strikes down Trump tariffs, rebuking president's signature economic policy

Source: CNBC

Published Fri, Feb 20 2026 10:03 AM EST Updated 12 Min Ago


The Supreme Court on Friday struck down a huge chunk of President Donald Trump’s far-reaching tariff agenda, in a major rebuke of the president’s key economic policy. The law that undergirds those import duties “does not authorize the President to impose tariffs,” the majority ruled six to three in a decision Trump had been awaiting.

The ruling is a massive loss for Trump, who has made tariffs — and his asserted power to impose them on any country at any time, without congressional input — a central feature of his administration’s economic and foreign policies. Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the opinion of the court. Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh dissented. The ruling was silent on whether tariffs that have been paid under the higher rates will need to be refunded.

Since retaking the White House, Trump has rapidly reshaped America’s longstanding trade relationships by imposing a staggering array of import duties that have touched nearly every country on earth. Many of those tariffs were invoked using a novel reading of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA. They include Trump’s near-global “reciprocal” tariffs, and separate duties related to the alleged trafficking of deadly drugs into the U.S.

IEEPA does not explicitly mention tariffs, and the court ruling Friday said it the law does not grant the president authority to impose tariffs. Instead, it allows the president to “regulate … importation” of foreign property transactions after declaring a national emergency in order to deal with certain “unusual and extraordinary” threats. The Trump administration has argued that language empowers the president to impose tariffs on foreign goods.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/20/supreme-court-trump-tariffs-ruling.html



Link to RULING (PDF) - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-1287_4gcj.pdf

Someone in the chat at SCOTUSBlog indicated -

6-3, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh dissent



Article updated.

Previous articles/headline -

Supreme Court strikes down Trump tariffs

Published Fri, Feb 20 2026 10:03 AM EST Updated 12 Min Ago


The Supreme Court on Friday struck down a huge chunk of President Donald Trump's far-reaching tariff agenda. The law that undergirds those import duties "does not authorize the President to impose tariffs," the majority ruled six to three. Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the opinion of the court. Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh dissented.

Since retaking the White House, Trump has rapidly reshaped America's longstanding trade relationships by imposing a staggering array of import duties that have touched nearly every country on earth. Many of those tariffs were invoked using a novel reading of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, or IEEPA. They include Trump's near-global "reciprocal" tariffs, and separate duties related to the alleged trafficking of deadly drugs into the U.S.

IEEPA does not explicitly mention tariffs. Instead, it allows the president to "regulate ... importation" of foreign property transactions after declaring a national emergency in order to deal with certain "unusual and extraordinary" threats. The Trump administration has argued that that language empowers the president to impose tariffs on foreign goods.

Critics charged that the law does not permit the president to unilaterally impose levies of any size on any country at any time. A federal trade court and a federal appeals court both found Trump's IEEPA tariffs illegal before the Supreme Court took up the case. The majority of U.S. tariff revenue generated last year came from the IEEPA duties.



Published Fri, Feb 20 2026 10:03 AM EST Updated 3 Min Ago

The Supreme Court on Friday struck down a huge chunk of President Donald Trump's far-reaching tariff agenda.

The law that undergirds those import duties "does not authorize the President to impose tariffs," the majority ruled.


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Supreme Court strikes down Trump tariffs, rebuking president's signature economic policy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 23 hrs ago OP
Nice but will Mr. Dump follow the ruling? mdbl 23 hrs ago #1
He claimed he had "alternative methods" BumRushDaShow 23 hrs ago #2
There is another law that allows a president to impose tariffs in an "emergency" Fiendish Thingy 23 hrs ago #13
SCOTUSBlog had a little discussion on that BumRushDaShow 22 hrs ago #18
Of course he did. Joinfortmill 22 hrs ago #27
Bombing Iran is the "alternative" that will justify an "emergency". live love laugh 4 hrs ago #85
I would be surprised if that "limited strike" didn't happen this weekend BumRushDaShow 3 hrs ago #86
Everybody knows that NJCher 22 hrs ago #24
I think the correct question is tavernier 13 hrs ago #83
Thomas, Alito and Kavanaugh keep their lips firmly oasis 23 hrs ago #3
Seriously, they don't care about the existing law, Constitution, or precedent. mdbl 23 hrs ago #6
Each one has a personal history of corruption. oasis 23 hrs ago #15
Like other Republicans they aim more towards the middle of his cheeks and it involves their tongues more than their lips cstanleytech 23 hrs ago #7
They have no shame. Zero oasis 23 hrs ago #14
You have to hand it to them: Aristus 22 hrs ago #21
A memo to all White House employees...... louis-t 23 hrs ago #4
Iran, girl, you in danger! Prairie Gates 23 hrs ago #9
They are as good a distraction as any! nt Shermann 21 hrs ago #55
EMERGENCY ALERT!! wnylib 21 hrs ago #44
So, they gave him the idea that he had immunity, and now it's their privilege to pull back Baitball Blogger 23 hrs ago #5
For Alito and Thomas to dissent is obvious, but for Kavanaugh to do so is really telling Prairie Gates 23 hrs ago #8
Better part of a million, as I recall from Drunky McJustice's hearing . . . hatrack 23 hrs ago #12
Boof Squee BeerBeerBeer!!! VGNonly 20 hrs ago #65
Hahahaha!! As if Kavanaugh has any "fundamental principles" AZ8theist 22 hrs ago #31
Thomas & Alito was no surprise, Kavanaugh was IMO KS Toronado 22 hrs ago #32
Someone must have reminded him YodaMom2 21 hrs ago #49
Too bad his buddy Jeffrey is no longer around not fooled 22 hrs ago #38
Hey, child fucker, perch on this Aviation Pro 23 hrs ago #10
No surprise that the nazi enablers, alito, thomas, and kavanaugh disented. They don't believe in lostincalifornia 23 hrs ago #11
They are sucking Trump's ass. Ray Bruns 22 hrs ago #20
They'll be getting the rebates ;) n/t Cheezoholic 22 hrs ago #42
What is tRump's Plan B. BigmanPigman 23 hrs ago #16
How about shucking his bloated mortal coil? Aviation Pro 23 hrs ago #17
Some people make the world a better place wnylib 21 hrs ago #45
It's reported that he's seeking a "workaround". oasis 22 hrs ago #22
A.K.A reach around.. BattleRow 12 hrs ago #84
National emergency declaration coming soon! WestMichRad 22 hrs ago #25
Exactly. With Trump, everything is an emergency. Marie Marie 16 hrs ago #76
Justices Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Samuel Alito dissented" Ray Bruns 22 hrs ago #19
It sickens... GiqueCee 22 hrs ago #29
Ha ha! WestMichRad 22 hrs ago #23
Squeaked by, thank God. Joinfortmill 22 hrs ago #26
kavanrapist is a stooge samsingh 22 hrs ago #28
🎼Roll back the tariffs we'll have a barrel of fun.🎼 oasis 22 hrs ago #30
Deadline Legal Blog-Supreme Court rules Trump doesn't have the tariff authority he claimed LetMyPeopleVote 22 hrs ago #33
Thank you BRDS, this is good news mahina 22 hrs ago #34
Roberts delivered the opinion/judgment of the Court. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissent.🚨 riversedge 22 hrs ago #35
The ultimate cancel culture. nt Xipe Totec 22 hrs ago #36
Some tariffs were imposed because of 'attitude' of foreign leaders, or judicial actions of nations TSF wiggs 22 hrs ago #37
Right. 70sEraVet 20 hrs ago #67
So is inventing law out of whole cloth an OFFICIAL duty of the president? bucolic_frolic 22 hrs ago #39
Why did this take so LONG!?! This should have happened a year ago.... FakeNoose 22 hrs ago #40
Orange pedo should have to personally repay the tariffs moonshinegnomie 22 hrs ago #41
Lutnik and his sons (and other Wall Streeters) will make "astronomical sums" from this SC decision. sop 22 hrs ago #43
Standing with billionaires. Distancing from trump. Bluetus 21 hrs ago #46
I honestly don't believe that the companies deserve to get much if any money back. cstanleytech 21 hrs ago #47
Trump should have to pay refunds out of his personal fortune to all of us. Linda ladeewolf 21 hrs ago #48
my guess was gorsuch alito and thomas. barbtries 21 hrs ago #50
Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh just showed us . . . AverageOldGuy 21 hrs ago #51
A non-treasonous decision from this Supreme Court? hay rick 21 hrs ago #52
"A non-treasonous decision from this Supreme Court?" BumRushDaShow 21 hrs ago #54
They are who we think they are. hay rick 20 hrs ago #58
Supreme Court Justices don't write the laws, they just interpret them FakeNoose 21 hrs ago #56
The way-out wacky ones seem to be in the majority lately.... NowsTheTime 14 hrs ago #79
So I would assume angrychair 21 hrs ago #53
Consider the complications FakeNoose 20 hrs ago #60
I get it angrychair 20 hrs ago #68
I hope you're right, because they OWE us, Chump owes us FakeNoose 20 hrs ago #69
The class actions where the lawyers pocket a substantial portion and the plaintiffs get a token amount? MichMan 17 hrs ago #73
I agree angrychair 17 hrs ago #74
Columbia didn't pay the tariffs; you did....to the federal government. Columbia was disenfranchised by the tariffs NowsTheTime 14 hrs ago #78
So you're saying all the American Importing companies kept the tariff money? FakeNoose 14 hrs ago #80
I can't say for sure I guess .....and no, we will never get the money back, Federal gov't collected it. NowsTheTime 13 hrs ago #81
It looks like the political hacks on this "court," if we call this arm of legal.... NNadir 20 hrs ago #57
They only thing that makes them move is BumRushDaShow 20 hrs ago #59
We can only hope this will finally make trump stroke out Bayard 20 hrs ago #61
At this point I'll settle for prices coming back down about 15 or 20% FakeNoose 20 hrs ago #66
Trump will announce that SCOTUS is the deep state & should be dissolved, in 5, 4, 3, ... aggiesal 20 hrs ago #62
I want my fucking refund check..... NOW!!!! LilElf70 20 hrs ago #63
Dems, listen up. The magic word of 2026 is CLAWBACK Bluetus 20 hrs ago #64
"...signature economic policy." MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #70
Tariffs are gone, but prices will continue to go up... malthaussen 19 hrs ago #71
I'd have bet money that they'd simply rubber-stamp it 6:3 Orrex 18 hrs ago #72
IIRC, this lawsuit was brought by a Leonard Deminpenn 17 hrs ago #75
So half of the republican members of the Supreme Court still support the Constitution thought crime 16 hrs ago #77
In all honesty... SirReal69 13 hrs ago #82
Early days yet to worry about getting the tariff money back that you paid. Aussie105 2 hrs ago #87

BumRushDaShow

(167,810 posts)
2. He claimed he had "alternative methods"
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:11 AM
23 hrs ago

But have no idea what he is referring to.

Tariffs are Peter Navarro's baby.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,612 posts)
13. There is another law that allows a president to impose tariffs in an "emergency"
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:22 AM
23 hrs ago

I don’t think this ruling affects that alternate law- the administration has already said publicly it is their plan B.

The alternate law has a cap of 10-15% on the tariffs that can be imposed, however.

BumRushDaShow

(167,810 posts)
18. SCOTUSBlog had a little discussion on that
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:38 AM
22 hrs ago

I haven't had chance to go through the 170 page ruling, but I think Kavanaugh supposedly summarized alternatives/caveats in his dissent.

BumRushDaShow

(167,810 posts)
86. I would be surprised if that "limited strike" didn't happen this weekend
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 06:12 AM
3 hrs ago

given I saw a report earlier that it would take 3 weeks for the Gerald Ford carrier group to get to the area.

NJCher

(42,870 posts)
24. Everybody knows that
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:47 AM
22 hrs ago

Why do we have to keep reading the same post over and over again?

It is important for the record.

cstanleytech

(28,344 posts)
7. Like other Republicans they aim more towards the middle of his cheeks and it involves their tongues more than their lips
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:15 AM
23 hrs ago

Baitball Blogger

(51,986 posts)
5. So, they gave him the idea that he had immunity, and now it's their privilege to pull back
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:13 AM
23 hrs ago

on the reins when they feel like it. Like when it's obvious that a president who thinks he has immunity can destroy this country in one term.

Prairie Gates

(7,644 posts)
8. For Alito and Thomas to dissent is obvious, but for Kavanaugh to do so is really telling
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:17 AM
23 hrs ago

Kavanaugh in theory should have been 100% on the majority side of this thing based solely on consistent ideological orientation. It's bonkers that he can ignore the fundamental principles of his own belief system just to side with Trump. Truly a piece of shit.

Who paid off those loans for the sex offender?

hatrack

(64,598 posts)
12. Better part of a million, as I recall from Drunky McJustice's hearing . . .
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:21 AM
23 hrs ago

Strange how that worked out . . .

AZ8theist

(7,194 posts)
31. Hahahaha!! As if Kavanaugh has any "fundamental principles"
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:55 AM
22 hrs ago

Other than enriching himself.

KS Toronado

(23,508 posts)
32. Thomas & Alito was no surprise, Kavanaugh was IMO
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:55 AM
22 hrs ago

Looks like he's going off the deep end.

YodaMom2

(171 posts)
49. Someone must have reminded him
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:53 AM
21 hrs ago

which side his toast is buttered on. No matter how many crazy-ass unConstitutional opinions he joins, he will never pay off his debt. Like the mob.

lostincalifornia

(5,178 posts)
11. No surprise that the nazi enablers, alito, thomas, and kavanaugh disented. They don't believe in
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:21 AM
23 hrs ago

separation of powers or the constitution, unless it protects their own stupid asses.

The nazi in the WH will use an alternative way.

That being said, WTF was Congress doing when they didn't even try to push back when the jackass in the white house tried to take that power away from Congress.











Ray Bruns

(6,164 posts)
20. They are sucking Trump's ass.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:42 AM
22 hrs ago

“WTF was Congress doing when they didn't even try to push back when the jackass in the white house tried to take that power away from Congress.”

wnylib

(25,419 posts)
45. Some people make the world a better place
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:42 AM
21 hrs ago

just by the way they live their lives.

Others make the world a better place just by leaving it.

GiqueCee

(3,727 posts)
29. It sickens...
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:54 AM
22 hrs ago

... and enrages me that those three dissenters dare to call themselves loyal to the Constitution and the nation. They're lower than snake shit in a tire track.

LetMyPeopleVote

(177,573 posts)
33. Deadline Legal Blog-Supreme Court rules Trump doesn't have the tariff authority he claimed
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:56 AM
22 hrs ago

The justices expressed skepticism in November that the administration could impose sweeping tariffs under a federal law granting emergency powers.

Supreme Court rules Trump doesn’t have the tariff authority he claimed

www.ms.now/deadline-whi...

Anti-Trumpism (@forabettertomorrow.bsky.social) 2026-02-20T15:17:44.990Z

https://www.ms.now/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/supreme-court-tariffs-trump-ruling

The Supreme Court ruled Friday that President Donald Trump doesn’t have the tariff authority he claimed, in a decision authored by Chief Justice John Roberts.

The ruling addressed a key Donald Trump policy as the high court considers the scope of presidential power across several cases this term. The court’s Republican-appointed majority has broadly empowered the Republican president but has occasionally checked him.

The justices agreed in September to consider the tariff issue on an expedited basis, granting review in two separate cases, both of which the administration lost in the lower courts. One of them came through a specialized trade and appeals court, and the other came through a general federal court in Washington.

When the high court heard oral arguments in November, the justices sounded skeptical of the administration’s position that Trump was authorized to impose the sweeping tariffs under a federal law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA).......

In the case called Trump v. V.O.S. Selections, the Federal Circuit ruled that Trump overstepped his authority in attempting to rely on IEEPA. “The statute neither mentions tariffs (or any of its synonyms) nor has procedural safeguards that contain clear limits on the President’s power to impose tariffs,” the circuit court wrote in a divided ruling that split the court 7-4, though not strictly along the party lines of the presidents who appointed the judges.

In the other case, Learning Resources v. Trump, U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras, an Obama appointee, wrote that if Congress “had intended to delegate to the President the power of taxing ordinary commerce from any country at any rate for virtually any reason, it would have had to say so.” He wrote that no other president “has ever purported to impose tariffs under IEEPA.”

I listened to the oral arguments and did not think that this would be that close of a decision but this is a very divided opinion which is why it took so long to come down.



riversedge

(80,224 posts)
35. Roberts delivered the opinion/judgment of the Court. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissent.🚨
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 10:59 AM
22 hrs ago




SCOTUS Wire
@scotus_wire
·
43m
🚨 In a 6-3 vote, the Supreme Court STRIKES DOWN President Trump's tariffs, holding that the President CANNOT use the IEEPA and Congress alone has the taxing power.

Roberts delivered the opinion/judgment of the Court. Thomas, Alito, and Kavanaugh dissent.


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wiggs

(8,737 posts)
37. Some tariffs were imposed because of 'attitude' of foreign leaders, or judicial actions of nations TSF
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:11 AM
22 hrs ago

disagreed with. Or because of hte 'drugs' when drugs were clearly not the real issue.

TSFs disorders, lack of discipline, incompetence, narcissism, and gut instincts doomed his illegal use of tariffs

70sEraVet

(5,385 posts)
67. Right.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 01:10 PM
20 hrs ago

I'm thinking of the tariff trump imposed against Brazil, (additional 40%) because a court had the audacity to sentence their former leader to 27 years in prison for committing the same crime trump committed.
It is insane to allow the leader of a democracy to have that kind of arbitrary power.

bucolic_frolic

(54,658 posts)
39. So is inventing law out of whole cloth an OFFICIAL duty of the president?
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:15 AM
22 hrs ago

Sounded to me like non-official duties were verboten.

FakeNoose

(41,012 posts)
40. Why did this take so LONG!?! This should have happened a year ago....
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:17 AM
22 hrs ago

But ... good on you SCOTUS!




Edit to ADD:

When do I get my REFUND for the artificially high prices I've paid for these stupid f**king tariffs in the last year?
Prices need to come down immediately because tariffs are deleted. Chump owes me a lot of money!

moonshinegnomie

(3,953 posts)
41. Orange pedo should have to personally repay the tariffs
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:19 AM
22 hrs ago

I know that won’t happen but I can wish

sop

(18,114 posts)
43. Lutnik and his sons (and other Wall Streeters) will make "astronomical sums" from this SC decision.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:30 AM
22 hrs ago

'Lutnick Family Angling To Make Astronomical Sums Off Court Nixing Tariffs'

(TPM) "This is not new. But I at least hadn’t heard any of these dots connected. I wasn’t even aware of the dots. A friend mentioned to me over the weekend that he’d heard about Wall Streeters buying up the rights to tariff refunds from big corporate importers. So the idea is that a Wall Street firm goes to an importer and says, you’ve now paid $10 million in tariffs. I’ll pay you $2 million right now for the right to collect the refund if courts ever end up deciding the tariffs were illegal. My friend had also heard that one of the most aggressive buyers was Cantor Fitzgerald, the firm until recently headed by Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and now run by Lutnick’s sons. Twenty-something Brandon Lutnick, pictured above on the left in a 2016 photo, is the current chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald. (He must be hella talented!)"

"Damn, I thought: That’s a hot story, crooked as the day is long. But I’m not sure how I or we would track it down without better finance world sources. Still, it was worth some quick googling. It turns out this is happening and Cantor’s role has already been reported. Wired and others reported this more than a month ago."

"In mid-July, according to Wired, Cantor was buying up the rights to your potential tariff refund at between 20 and 30 cents per dollar. Needless to say, I bet that price has gone up a lot since last Friday’s federal appellate court upheld the lower court ruling that almost all of Trump’s tariffs are illegal. So in paper terms Cantor has probably already made a ton of money on this."

"Now, before going any further I want to make clear that in itself this transaction is fairly unremarkable. A huge amount of modern finance is about making bets on uncertain outcomes, bets which can be structured in various ways. It might be commodities futures. In this case, it’s the right to collect a refund that may never happen. The sale of debt — a ubiquitous feature of modern finance — is similar. Purchasing debt, whether it’s a government bond or your home mortgage, is fundamentally a bet on the likelihood of repayment. I don’t want to belabor the point, only to make clear that the transaction in concept is neither outlandish or suspect, at least no more than any other part of modern finance."

"All that said, it’s hard to imagine anything more emblematic of the Trump Era than what is for all intents and purposes still the Commerce Secretary’s company (yes, yes, arms length hand off to his twenty-something sons) making bets on something Lutnick himself has significant influence over. Indeed, far more important than whatever influence Lutnick has over tariff policy is that significant visibility he has into the bet’s probable outcome."

More at link:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/lutnick-family-angling-to-make-astronomical-sums-off-court-nixing-tariffs

.......

I'm betting Trump will somehow also cash in...

Bluetus

(2,566 posts)
46. Standing with billionaires. Distancing from trump.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:46 AM
21 hrs ago

This looks like the beginning of the lame duck period or Trump. It is clear the Supreme Court is looking to put daylight between themselves and Trump and to fend off efforts to make major reforms to the Supreme Court.

cstanleytech

(28,344 posts)
47. I honestly don't believe that the companies deserve to get much if any money back.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 11:48 AM
21 hrs ago

Unless of course they didn't raise prices to keep or improve their profits while the tariffs were active.

barbtries

(31,255 posts)
50. my guess was gorsuch alito and thomas.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:00 PM
21 hrs ago

hmm.

this is good news; i'll take it. i guess now we may find out whether krasnov will ignore the SC the way the rest of the government ignores the Courts, the Constitution, the law....

hay rick

(9,509 posts)
52. A non-treasonous decision from this Supreme Court?
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:13 PM
21 hrs ago

The exception does not prove the rule. Both the membership of the Court and multiple recent precedents need to be bulldozed. We can't afford to go back to "the way things were"...we will just end up in the same spot or worse. The enemies of democracy are seeking to change the meaning of several parts of the constitution and change the practical effect of the rule of law. If we only play defense we will not weaken the oligopolistic forces. The Supreme Court is still their captive and that needs to be changed if we are going to stop and reverse the authoritarian momentum.

BumRushDaShow

(167,810 posts)
54. "A non-treasonous decision from this Supreme Court?"
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:23 PM
21 hrs ago

More like BOTTOM LINE of the over 1000 or more businesses that sued to overturn the tariffs (although obviously individual cases didn't "make the news" ). The companies couldn't suck up anymore.

It's still a "capitalistic country" and even Roberts apparently realizes that you don't mess with the $$$$ (which is also why Lisa Cook wasn't immediately torpedoed off the Federal Reserve Board).

hay rick

(9,509 posts)
58. They are who we think they are.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:36 PM
20 hrs ago

Occasionally the founder's plain intent and the interests of the business community are going to land on the same side.

FakeNoose

(41,012 posts)
56. Supreme Court Justices don't write the laws, they just interpret them
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:33 PM
21 hrs ago

... and most of their rulings are based on precedent. Other than a few way-out wacky ones, they will continue to do that, despite a president's nutty or fascist intentions.

Most of the time, the Supreme Court's decisions mean that the way we've been doing things will continue to be the way we do things. I'm no legal expert, but I've been here almost 75 years, and I've seen a lot of stuff.

angrychair

(12,001 posts)
53. So I would assume
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:17 PM
21 hrs ago

That the US will have to return the tariff money because it was illegal. So who wants to bet that this administration refuses to do that?

FakeNoose

(41,012 posts)
60. Consider the complications
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:45 PM
20 hrs ago

Consumers paid prices that were too high, because retailers were being overcharged. Manufacturers and distributers (including importers) were charging higher prices in anticipation of having to pay the foreign manufacturers. The foreign manufacturers from China and elsewhere were getting their arms twisted by the US government. They had to pay a tariff just to ship their products into the US, and then they had to raise their prices to the buyers to cover that cost.

So now, how does Uncle Sam compensate all these people who were overcharged?

I just bought a package of Colombian coffee for $10 and it should have cost maybe $7 because that's what I paid before Chump started this bullshit. The coffee isn't worth $3 more now, but that $3 represents the tariffs that Colombia (and other exporters) had to pay. Do I get a $3 refund on every package of coffee that I've purchased in the last year? How can the government compensate every consumer that has purchased coffee in the past 12 months? And that's just one product. The tariffs are on just about everything we're buying right now.

angrychair

(12,001 posts)
68. I get it
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 01:17 PM
20 hrs ago

But the complications are not my problem. It is their problem. Class action lawsuits never come close to making people whole but typically the individual share is representative of the money lost.

FakeNoose

(41,012 posts)
69. I hope you're right, because they OWE us, Chump owes us
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 01:20 PM
20 hrs ago

Whether or not it will ever happen, well ....

MichMan

(16,941 posts)
73. The class actions where the lawyers pocket a substantial portion and the plaintiffs get a token amount?
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 03:35 PM
17 hrs ago

Those class actions?

angrychair

(12,001 posts)
74. I agree
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 03:41 PM
17 hrs ago

The point is to make him lose. To be the thorn in the foot.

If we aren't going to do a general strike.
And we...shouldn't...burn it all down.

At the very least we should not just lay down and make it easy.

NowsTheTime

(1,284 posts)
78. Columbia didn't pay the tariffs; you did....to the federal government. Columbia was disenfranchised by the tariffs
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:11 PM
14 hrs ago

FakeNoose

(41,012 posts)
80. So you're saying all the American Importing companies kept the tariff money?
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:18 PM
14 hrs ago

They charged it backward to the distributors and consumers but they didn't pay it forward to the foreign companies who shipped their products into the USA? I believe you're wrong about that.

But in any case, the American consumers - the end buyers - are the ones paying the tariffs whenever we buy stuff. I was making the point that the US government can never compensate us for these losses.

NowsTheTime

(1,284 posts)
81. I can't say for sure I guess .....and no, we will never get the money back, Federal gov't collected it.
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:39 PM
13 hrs ago

NNadir

(37,675 posts)
57. It looks like the political hacks on this "court," if we call this arm of legal....
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:34 PM
20 hrs ago

Last edited Fri Feb 20, 2026, 03:15 PM - Edit history (1)

...revolutionaries in change of dismantling the US Constitution a "court," are starting to see which way the wind is blowing.

If the rule of law is ever reestablished in this country, in spite of their efforts to destroy it, there may be hell to pay.

Certainly the highly corrupt Clarence Thomas should be subject to impeachment, and frat boy Kavanaugh, who perjury himself during the joke of his confirmation hearings should be hell to pay.

Bayard

(29,137 posts)
61. We can only hope this will finally make trump stroke out
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:51 PM
20 hrs ago

I'll take the win, but we know any refund would come from taxpayer money.

Countries all over the world are pointing and laughing!

FakeNoose

(41,012 posts)
66. At this point I'll settle for prices coming back down about 15 or 20%
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 01:05 PM
20 hrs ago

I know we'll never see any refunds from the overcharges we've already paid in the last year. That money is already gone. And retailers were caught in the middle, they held off raising prices as long as they could.

US manufacturers and importers were and are raising their prices WHETHER OR NOT their goods were charged a tariff. They raised prices across the board because they COULD. It has been a money grab from the get-go.

I hope someone does a full expose on this sham very soon. Americans need to know that we're being overcharged for EVERYTHING we buy, including products that were never subject to Chump's tariff charges.

Chump did that!


aggiesal

(10,685 posts)
62. Trump will announce that SCOTUS is the deep state & should be dissolved, in 5, 4, 3, ...
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:52 PM
20 hrs ago

Then he will create a Board of Peace Court & only that court can judge his tariffs.
I'll get my way. So there!

LilElf70

(1,461 posts)
63. I want my fucking refund check..... NOW!!!!
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:53 PM
20 hrs ago

Trumps admin is so corrupt. Don't obey laws? Don't obey the constitution? Why aren't these people in jail?

Bluetus

(2,566 posts)
64. Dems, listen up. The magic word of 2026 is CLAWBACK
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 12:54 PM
20 hrs ago

All elected Dems should race to the side of businesses who deserve to claw back any tariffs they have paid since Trump took office. Chaos? Hell yes. Let's make Trump's life miserable. We can be on the same side of the table with small businesses up to Amazon. Force Trump to take the anti-business position.

And that is just the first step. There are other clawbacks. We should demand that the taxpayers clawback the cost of the East Wing that Trump illegally destroyed. Claw back the money he has pocketed from Venezuelan oil. Claw back the money he is pocketing from the Gaza genocide and land grab.

Claw back the 747 he illegally accepted as an emolument.

Clawback is the word. Use it. One word sums up what everybody is feeling about this gangster.

malthaussen

(18,524 posts)
71. Tariffs are gone, but prices will continue to go up...
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 02:20 PM
19 hrs ago

... I'm quite certain that corporations will mournfully conclude that it is not possible to cut the prices they raised because of tariffs now that the tariffs are gone. It will probably make them extremely sad.

-- Mal

thought crime

(1,401 posts)
77. So half of the republican members of the Supreme Court still support the Constitution
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 04:50 PM
16 hrs ago

In an ultra-clear case. So nice to know.

SirReal69

(8 posts)
82. In all honesty...
Fri Feb 20, 2026, 07:44 PM
13 hrs ago

the Trump family should be stripped of all the assets they've grifted during this presidential cycle and that money should be used to pay back the illegal tariffs to companies and small businesses, otherwise we, the people, get screwed on both sides of this. We paid higher prices because of it and it comes out of our tax dollars to fix it.

Aussie105

(7,749 posts)
87. Early days yet to worry about getting the tariff money back that you paid.
Sat Feb 21, 2026, 06:47 AM
2 hrs ago

Us mere mortals aren't mentally equipped to deal with that level of complexity.

But rest peacefully in the thought that Trump's drive to dictatorship and dictating what goes because his Bigly Genius Brain came up with an idea on how to destroy global trade, has been severely dented.

Pushback feels good.
It's late and only a first step, but it feels good.
And from the SC too!

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