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ancianita

(43,216 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:06 PM 11 hrs ago

Exclusive: Trump floats "off ramps" after attacking Iran

Source: Axios

...What they're saying: "I can go long and take over the whole thing, or end it in two or three days and tell the Iranians: 'See you again in a few years if you start rebuilding [your nuclear and missile programs]," Trump said in a five-minute phone interview from Mar-a-Lago.
"In any case, it will take them several years to recover from this attack," he predicted.

Why it matters: The comments offer the first real window into Trump's thinking about how this ends — and suggest he's still open to a diplomatic solution, even after U.S.-Iran nuclear talks collapsed in Geneva.
A short operation followed by new ultimatums would be a dramatically different outcome than the regime change that some U.S. and Israeli officials have described as the goal.
Trump is facing domestic pressure, including from his MAGA base, to avoid a prolonged Middle East intervention.

Driving the news: Trump cited two main reasons for launching the strikes — the first being the failure of negotiations this week led by his envoys, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner.
"The Iranians got close and then pulled back — close and then pulled back. I understood from that that they don't really want a deal," he said.

The second reason was Iran's conduct over the last several decades.
Trump said that while writing his speech Friday announcing the attack, he asked his team to compile every Iranian-linked attack around the world over the past 25 years.
"I saw that every month they did something bad, blew something up or killed someone," he told Axios.



Read more: https://www.axios.com/2026/02/28/trump-iran-war-israel-off-ramps



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Exclusive: Trump floats "off ramps" after attacking Iran (Original Post) ancianita 11 hrs ago OP
Another TACO move? BarbD 10 hrs ago #1
Possibly. But the action itself demolishes ancianita 10 hrs ago #2
The "Bored of Peace" kurtyboy 8 hrs ago #13
Perfect. ancianita 8 hrs ago #18
If any non-nuclear country had any doubts as to why it needs a nuclear deterrent,... LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #3
Except it's the trying to acquire the nuclear weapons that causes the attacks EX500rider 9 hrs ago #8
Yes, but in his first term he blew up the deal that had Iran totally controlled. ancianita 8 hrs ago #19
Market dump and pump fujiyamasan 9 hrs ago #4
There is no "off" ramp Javaman 9 hrs ago #5
A girls' school. At least 85 dead right now, and it is likely to go higher. colorado_ufo 9 hrs ago #7
I had seen mention of this, but haven't found the article, myself. slightlv 7 hrs ago #26
We broke it, you fix it. I am concerned about the news coverage on this. Katinfl 9 hrs ago #11
Yep, we're the baddies. The whole nation will suffer for the sins of this man and his Dept of War. ancianita 9 hrs ago #12
maybe kinda weird to post, but this song I just heard connects me to what you say ancianita 8 hrs ago #15
The demented hope that Iranians will rise up against the regime kurtyboy 8 hrs ago #17
Total Truth. ancianita 8 hrs ago #21
When even WE see America as a form of the Great Satan slightlv 7 hrs ago #27
I hear you. I simply refuse to see America that way in the long arc of its history. ancianita 7 hrs ago #31
Not to mention that Prince Pahlavi just screwed over his supporters in Iran when he sided with the orange assclown. Crowman2009 3 hrs ago #41
I don't think for a minute the Iranians are going to let Trump off this petard of his own making. flashman13 7 hrs ago #24
Are we a shithole country yet? Talitha 9 hrs ago #6
Given what Katinfl says, it's more like we're a rogue country spreading state sponsored terrorism ancianita 9 hrs ago #10
Yes MissouriDem47 1 hr ago #44
If I remember correctly it took a long time for John Kerry to get them to sign the treaty years ago. Katinfl 9 hrs ago #9
Doesn't matter angrychair 8 hrs ago #14
Totally agree. It's the basis of international law. And we have broken that which makes this ancianita 8 hrs ago #16
Remember when PBO announced the death of Osama bin Laden? FakeNoose 8 hrs ago #20
Because he's a psychotic narcissist. ancianita 8 hrs ago #22
New ultimatums.... Bayard 8 hrs ago #23
What will happen now? RussBLib 7 hrs ago #25
If I were Donny, I wouldn't be worried about Putin... slightlv 7 hrs ago #28
I hear you. ancianita 7 hrs ago #29
His added brain requires a total lobotomy. SleeplessinSoCal 7 hrs ago #30
He thinks everything can happen in the time it takes to crap his pants. mdbl 6 hrs ago #32
Look Over Here!!!! MadMike47 6 hrs ago #33
Death and destruction as distraction. How Diabolical. ancianita 6 hrs ago #34
Funny that he pretends to care that they do bad things.... Ol Janx Spirit 6 hrs ago #35
EXACTLY. Well said. ancianita 6 hrs ago #36
These offramps bluestateboomer 6 hrs ago #37
... ancianita 6 hrs ago #38
Trump Invites Retaliation 2na fisherman 4 hrs ago #39
This whole episode is an off ramp into complete insanity. ananda 3 hrs ago #40
"Two Main Reasons" are actually one. usonian 3 hrs ago #42
He bombed a school full of children. 58Sunliner 3 hrs ago #43

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
2. Possibly. But the action itself demolishes
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:36 PM
10 hrs ago

his so-called Board of Peace as any good faith answer to war.

That he's thrust the USA in a Middle East war says who he is for all time.

kurtyboy

(1,005 posts)
13. The "Bored of Peace"
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:24 PM
8 hrs ago

...has performed its function and is now superfluous. The bribe/extortion money has been deposited.

LudwigPastorius

(14,504 posts)
3. If any non-nuclear country had any doubts as to why it needs a nuclear deterrent,...
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 03:47 PM
10 hrs ago

this attack by Trump & Bibi should clear things up.

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
19. Yes, but in his first term he blew up the deal that had Iran totally controlled.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:33 PM
8 hrs ago

This international psychopath made this problem, and his way of solving it is to kill innocent children in a unilateral war of choice.

Javaman

(65,537 posts)
5. There is no "off" ramp
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:35 PM
9 hrs ago

This is so far beyond any “off” ramp

We didn’t just break something and now we have to buy it, we dropped a bomb on a kids school. 50 children are dead

He has opened yet another Pandora’s box. But there is no closing it or ignoring it or convincing the media to look the other way.

We are in the sub basement of the rabbit hole, we are not only through the looking glass but once through we broke that looking glass and there is no way back. The orange asshole looked into the abyss and jumped in.

We are no longer anything but evil now.

Yes, we are the baddies

slightlv

(7,680 posts)
26. I had seen mention of this, but haven't found the article, myself.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:33 PM
7 hrs ago

But why doesn't it surprise me that it was a GIRL'S school trump bombed?! I say no sex to any male until the most violent ones are brought to heel. Lysistrata this thing!

Katinfl

(715 posts)
11. We broke it, you fix it. I am concerned about the news coverage on this.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:58 PM
9 hrs ago

With his cronies in charge of most of the media these days I am afraid it will all be white-washed. We cannot trust anyone with the truth.

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
12. Yep, we're the baddies. The whole nation will suffer for the sins of this man and his Dept of War.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:02 PM
9 hrs ago

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
15. maybe kinda weird to post, but this song I just heard connects me to what you say
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:25 PM
8 hrs ago


Come and see
Where I witness everything
On my knees
You beat it down to get to my soul
Against my will
Anyone could tell us you're coming
Baby don't mind
Leave it on the line, leave it hanging on a rail

Come and ride away
It's easier to stick to the old
Surrounded by the night
Surrounded by the night, and you don't give in
But you abuse my faith
Losing every time but I don't know where
You're on my side again
So ride the heat wherever it goes
I'll be the one to care, woo!

(chorus)
You're all I've got, wait
Don't wanna let the dark night cover my soul
Well, you can see it through the darkness coming my way
Well, we won't get lost inside it all again

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Oh, my ride
No one sees me when I'm right here waiting
They don't mind that I'm here, I hear
Throw the big weight of your mind against it
I would keep you here, but I can't

(Pre-Chorus)
Oh, I am trying to see the right way
I don't see it anywhere I come, babe
Yeah, woo!

Lost on my sea again
The easy way to cover my sin
Don't want another dark time think to myself
Yeah, I won't get lost inside it all, you're on my way
Well, I can see it, the darkness covering my mind
Well, we can hear the voices war inside, yeah
They won't get lost inside it all
You're on my way, woo

kurtyboy

(1,005 posts)
17. The demented hope that Iranians will rise up against the regime
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:28 PM
8 hrs ago

was destroyed by the bombing of the school (s?).
Any person in Iran will now have a SHARPLY focused understanding of which evil to oppose in the short term. Their resolve, having had children murdered by Israel and the United States, will not waver. Chicken-sized hornets will come home to roost....

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
21. Total Truth.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:39 PM
8 hrs ago

And 77% of America didn't even vote for him. Yet in Iranians eyes we remain The Great Satan.

slightlv

(7,680 posts)
27. When even WE see America as a form of the Great Satan
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:35 PM
7 hrs ago

because of the Magas and the oligarchs and the tech bros who stole the last election, why wouldn't Iran... or any other country, for that matter? America under Trump is a threat and danger to all world order, and will have to be brought to heel. If we can't do it ourselves, other countries will see to it... just like they did with Hitler. They're not going to sit there and wait for the bombs to drop on their own countries. And all this, because of a demented old man who should have been in a Nursing home over a decade ago!

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
31. I hear you. I simply refuse to see America that way in the long arc of its history.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:44 PM
7 hrs ago

77% of Americans did not vote GOP in either 2016 or 2024.

We are not what we are called. We are only what we answer to.

We of the 77% must refuse to be dragged into this psychopath's darkness.

Fear of how the world see us is to fear that we're identified with our oppressor.

Crowman2009

(3,481 posts)
41. Not to mention that Prince Pahlavi just screwed over his supporters in Iran when he sided with the orange assclown.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:27 PM
3 hrs ago

flashman13

(2,268 posts)
24. I don't think for a minute the Iranians are going to let Trump off this petard of his own making.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:10 PM
7 hrs ago

The Straits of Hormuz are closed. That is a very large trump (no pun intended) card. All the Iranians need do is stand pat and let Trump make the next move. What could possibly go wrong?

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
10. Given what Katinfl says, it's more like we're a rogue country spreading state sponsored terrorism
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:56 PM
9 hrs ago

Katinfl

(715 posts)
9. If I remember correctly it took a long time for John Kerry to get them to sign the treaty years ago.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 04:55 PM
9 hrs ago

Long time and much better negotiators. He comes in and rips it up in 2016. What makes anyone think the Iranians would enter into another agreement with the US when it is not worth the paper it is written on?

angrychair

(12,074 posts)
14. Doesn't matter
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:24 PM
8 hrs ago

No one country, especially ours, has the right to unilaterally decide which countries can exist and which cannot.

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
16. Totally agree. It's the basis of international law. And we have broken that which makes this
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:27 PM
8 hrs ago

WH occupant a war criminal.

FakeNoose

(41,132 posts)
20. Remember when PBO announced the death of Osama bin Laden?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:37 PM
8 hrs ago


Yeah, it's been bothering Chump ever since that day.

Bayard

(29,237 posts)
23. New ultimatums....
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 05:57 PM
8 hrs ago

Like--You will be installing who we choose as your new leader. And, give us your oil, or else.

RussBLib

(10,510 posts)
25. What will happen now?
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:25 PM
7 hrs ago

If this results in a free Iran, Trump will get some credit. The way he went about it was illegal and wrong, and it will bring back the old “end justifies the means” argument.

Obviously, a world where one country can reach into another country and kill the leader is going to be an unstable world.

How about Putin, Donny? Oh, yeah, he loves Putin.

slightlv

(7,680 posts)
28. If I were Donny, I wouldn't be worried about Putin...
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:37 PM
7 hrs ago

I'd be worried about myself, if I was him. Of course, he feels untouchable, ever since the "assassination attempt" that wasn't really an attempt...

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
29. I hear you.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:38 PM
7 hrs ago

Here's some in depth timeline and detail on the runup.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Iran–United_States_crisis

And then Roaring Lion by Israel and Operation Epic Fury by the US Dept of War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Israeli–United_States_strikes_on_Iran

Without international support, I can't foresee anything beyond trump's utter failure, except perhaps an eventual international investigation and restructuring of global politics re the U.S.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,391 posts)
30. His added brain requires a total lobotomy.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 06:42 PM
7 hrs ago

"A lobotomy, also known as leucotomy, is a surgical procedure that involves severing connections in the brain's prefrontal cortex to treat psychiatric disorders. It was widely used from the 1930s to the 1970s but is now considered a discredited and controversial practice due to its severe side effects and ethical concerns."

Ol Janx Spirit

(920 posts)
35. Funny that he pretends to care that they do bad things....
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 07:49 PM
6 hrs ago

"I saw that every month they did something bad, blew something up or killed someone," he told Axios.

But I remember when he defended Putin:

In an interview with Fox News, he said: "There are a lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. What do you think? Our country's so innocent?"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38872328


And of course, the rest of the world would probably agree....

ancianita

(43,216 posts)
36. EXACTLY. Well said.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:01 PM
6 hrs ago

Hypocrisy isn't the province of religion alone. He's the hypocritical embodiment of man's inhumanity to man.

Most of the world's people know that any country has killers, and that a sane leader doesn't use that fact to justify a leadership and governing strategy of killing. Only a criminal dictator would rationalize such systematic murder by conflating his survival and profit with "national security."

bluestateboomer

(543 posts)
37. These offramps
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 08:03 PM
6 hrs ago

I suspect access to these off ramps will be a lot stickier than the access to the on ramps.

2na fisherman

(298 posts)
39. Trump Invites Retaliation
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 09:21 PM
4 hrs ago

Just imagine a scenario if the Iranians start activating vengeful terrorist cells on US soil to target large civilian gatherings. Soft targets with mass casualties like World Cup Soccer matches etc. This fits in with his plan to declare extreme war powers and never leave office. And he won't care about the casualties in the thousands if it gives him the excuse he needs to declare martial law. Perhaps he will covertly orchestrate or assist such an attack on the US as his Reichstag Fire moment to suspend civil liberties and try to seize control of the country. And when citizens engage in mass protests against him, he will authorize shoot to kill orders against all "terrorist sympathizers." Too far-fetched? We all know he is an amoral desperate man capable of doing things once thought to be unthinkable. And he may yet bring us to the brink of WWIII.

ananda

(34,729 posts)
40. This whole episode is an off ramp into complete insanity.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:11 PM
3 hrs ago

Trump is playing at extortion and negotiations
after ego-bombing a country to try to outdo
Obama.

Obama may live rent free in his head, but
outside his head real people and countries
are being harmed and killed.. both here and
abroad.

!@#$%

58Sunliner

(6,283 posts)
43. He bombed a school full of children.
Sat Feb 28, 2026, 10:51 PM
3 hrs ago

Who doesn't believe he killed kids he raped? Past is prologue. That they were female children was intentional.
I truly doubt he cares what Iran has done. It didn't affect his life. So what is his end game? It isn't "diplomacy".
Several theories and probably some truth to many of them. The end is terrorism. He can't bomb us, yet. Why do I feel like Iran is the king's whipping boy?

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