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marmar

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Mon Jul 14, 2025, 09:51 AM Monday

MAGA continues to reel from Trump's Epstein betrayal


MAGA continues to reel from Trump’s Epstein betrayal
A movement founded on conspiracy theories wonders if the president is leading one of his own

By Heather Digby Parton
Columnist
Published July 14, 2025 9:15AM (EDT)


(Salon) To assume that the escalating right-wing meltdown over the Justice Department’s dismissal of the “Epstein files” affair will be a fatal blow to the MAGA cult is very tempting. But it’s probably best to resist that temptation, at least for the moment. Over the years, there have been so many instances that felt as if they had to be the beginning of the end, and they all ended up being false alarms. In each case, the country moved on and Donald Trump only grew stronger. Still, this one has a characteristic that we haven’t seen before: The calls are coming from inside the house.

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The conspiracy theories around this case have become a MAGA obsession, with activists and influencers on the right raising doubts about how Epstein died. Trump, who always has an ear to the ground, picked up on their fervor, and his campaign’s promise to thoroughly investigate the case was believed by his base to be one of the most important he made. Funnily enough, he never seemed that eager to talk about it. In a November 2024 interview with Fox News, he hesitated when asked about releasing the files.

Trump was president during the federal case that landed Epstein in jail and led to his presumed suicide, so he may very well have had inside information that he didn’t want released. (I think we can be fairly sure that if information had implicated his political enemies, he would have pledged to do so with relish.) That should have set off alarm bells to his flock. But as with so much else, they didn’t even notice, seeing what they wanted to see. They believed the assurances of Trump’s most fervent MAGA influencers that, if elected to serve a second term, he would expose a vast conspiracy.

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The Justice Department’s memo was a slap in the face to the MAGA faithful. They were stunned. And when Trump rudely dismissed their concerns in a cabinet meeting and then admonished them on Truth Social in a long rant blaming former President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, demanding that his followers focus on the scandals he wants them to focus on, the crushing betrayal was personal. Never before has a Trump post received such a massive negative response on his own platform. Even his most loyal influencers, including popular MAGA commentator Benny Johnson and Fox News, were hostile. ...........(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/07/14/maga-continues-to-reel-from-trumps-epstein-betrayal/




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MAGA continues to reel from Trump's Epstein betrayal (Original Post) marmar Monday OP
"Pedophile" is their first, main, & last slam against perceived enemies. So the Epstein files promise is huge. Bernardo de La Paz Monday #1
They'll come around. Aristus Monday #2

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,143 posts)
1. "Pedophile" is their first, main, & last slam against perceived enemies. So the Epstein files promise is huge.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:06 AM
Monday
https://www.newsweek.com › donald-trump-jr-democrats-pro-pedophile-1691198
Trump Jr. Calls Democrats 'Pro-Pedophile' in Response to Jackson ...
"When did Democrats become so pro-pedophile?" Trump Jr. asked as Republicans questioned Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson during her Senate confirmation hearing.

MTG faces calls to resign after wild statement on Trump shooting ... - MSN
MTG faces calls to resign after wild statement on Trump shooting: 'Democrats are the party of pedophiles' - 'We are in a battle between GOOD and EVIL,' Greene writes as she blames shooting ...

Even tRump used it:
https://www.usatoday.com › story › tech › 2020 › 10 › 15 › trump-believes-qanon-claim-fighting-pedophiles › 3673377001
Trump believes QAnon claim it's fighting pedophiles, won't disavow
President Donald Trump said he believes "very strongly" in one of the central beliefs of QAnon that it's fighting a "deep state" of pedophiles.

https://www.factcheck.org › 2020 › 10 › social-media-posts-dredge-up-baseless-child-trafficking-conspiracy-theory
Social Media Posts Dredge Up Baseless 'Child Trafficking' Conspiracy ...
Social media posts are once again making false and baseless claims about high-profile Democrats being involved in child trafficking and sex crimes.

Aristus

(70,416 posts)
2. They'll come around.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:59 AM
Monday

After all, they really don't have any morals. Sure, if it is proven that he is a child-rapist, they'll acknowledge it, and then say they still support him because "He's doin' great things for the country..."

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