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marmar

(78,660 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:49 AM Saturday

Why MAGA hates science so much


Why MAGA hates science so much
Billionaires hate the rest of us — and Trump's loyalists would rather suffer, even die, than face the truth

By Kirk Swearingen
Contributing Writer
Published July 19, 2025 9:00AM (EDT)


(Salon) Against all the evidence of horrific, devastating weather around us, climate change is still a “hoax.” A measles outbreak sparked by anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists now extends beyond Texas to 34 states. Republicans are doing all they can to shut down funding for medical research.

Why does MAGA hate science? Shall we count the ways?

Because scientific advances don’t discriminate between the “worthy” and those considered unworthy, and because some in the billionaire class think they deserve to live much longer than you do.

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Beyond the historical friction between science and religious beliefs (for which earlier scientists could be imprisoned or burned at the stake), the main reason MAGA hates science is human-caused global climate change. Al Gore famously called global warming an “inconvenient truth,” but Donald Trump persists in calling it “a hoax,” while defunding climate research, green technology, NOAA and FEMA. The COVID pandemic gave MAGA followers many more incoherent reasons to distrust science, while watching “their favorite president” politicize every aspect of the response.

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The long-term negative effects of Trump’s attack on science, which are also part of the full-spectrum MAGA assault on education and the nonpartisan civil service, will likely be even worse. Students will be increasingly reluctant to pursue careers in science. Only a months ago, STEM courses in high school and college were viewed as critical to the future of American ingenuity and enterprise, a big part of what actually made America great. It’s impossible to gauge just how much damage will be done as we ban vaccines, deny climate science and make measles great again. ...............(more)

https://www.salon.com/2025/07/19/why-maga-hates-science-so-much/




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walkingman

(9,568 posts)
1. Is it politically incorrect to say because they are stupid or ignorant?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:04 AM
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Stupid - having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
"I was stupid enough to think she was perfect"

Ignorant - lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about a particular thing.
"they were ignorant of astronomy"

Metaphorical

(2,470 posts)
2. I like the term willfully ignorant
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:32 AM
Saturday

Ignorance by itself is simply the statement that someone lacks knowledge about a certain topic. Willful ignorance, on the other hand, is the deliberate, intentional effort to be malinformed (badly informed) because of laziness. Sometimes that's due to stupidity - a person's brain simply does not have enough ability to form abstractions that make up critical thought - but in most cases, it is due to not doing the hard work of gaining knowledge and challenging assumptions about their own internal world model, especially if changing that world model will make you less likely to be acceptable by one's in-groups.

EYESORE 9001

(28,580 posts)
4. What is the difference between ignorance and apathy?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:08 PM
Saturday

I don’t know and I don’t care
Seriously, I don’t believe most of these people are stupid in a physiologically compromised way. It’s that they don’t want to go through the rigor of any sort of organized thought process. I further believe it’s a natural human tendency that will be our undoing. We’ve subcontracted a large part of our cognitive activity to algorithms already. I warned about this when pocket calculators first came out. I said, give it a couple of generations and people won’t be able to add 17 + 11 in their heads. The advent of PCs added to the relinquishment of thinking to algorithms already. Now, vast swaths of society, business, and industry are flocking to AI - and we’re just beginning to see the results of that.

walkingman

(9,568 posts)
5. Good points and I agree. It's wonderful that we the collective information at our fingertips these days
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:00 PM
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but it also has led to less reading and more dependency on technology these days. I think just in my lifetime of going from using a slide-rule, to a calculator, to now apps for even simple math. I'm pretty sure that AI (always makes me think of our present-day Secretary of Education 😁 ) will have really life changing implication on our society some good and some seriously dangerous for the masses.

It seems obvious to people like myself who have witnessed the world change so much. I just don't think any of this present day dystopian world would have been possible 60 years ago. ☮

FakeNoose

(37,900 posts)
6. Disparity in educational opportunities might have something to do with it
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 09:39 PM
Saturday

BUT ... there is nothing to stop any any American of any color or political belief from going to their local public library. They can check out a book and read it for FREE and actually learn something.

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