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Jilly_in_VA

(12,994 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 12:33 PM Aug 11

Why Evangelicals Couldn't Care Less About Trump's Epstein Scandal

The Reverend Rob Schenck

In October 2016, when an audio recording surfaced of Donald Trump bragging to Access Hollywood host Billy Bush that he could kiss and grope the genitals of any woman he pleased because he was a star, one of America’s most venerated evangelical scholars withdrew his endorsement of Trump’s presidential run. It’s impossible to overstate the impact of Wayne Grudem’s reversal. Pastors, theologians, and academics revered the Harvard and Cambridge-educated ethicist, co-founder of the Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, and translator of the English Standard Version of the Bible.

Just three months before the tape was released, Grudem had penned an essay for the politically conservative publication Town Hall titled “Why Voting for Donald Trump Is a Morally Good Choice.” In it, he wrote, “I did not support Trump in the primary season. I even spoke against him at a pastors’ conference in February. But now I plan to vote for him. I do not think it is right to call him an ‘evil candidate.’ I think rather he is a good candidate with flaws.” His first reason justifying this support was what Clinton would do to the Supreme Court. Three months later, after the tapes were released, he told the same publication that Trump’s remarks were “morally evil.”

Fast forward to 2020, and Grudem would do another U-Turn and re-endorse Trump. This whipsaw would become a pattern for evangelical giants.

Still, way back in 2016, evangelicals did hold to certain standards. Those were the days before the president of the biggest evangelical institution of higher learning, Liberty University, was caught literally with his pants down (well, unzipped) aboard a yacht and next to a woman not his wife. It’s worth mentioning that the disgraced Jerry Falwell, Jr., was also an early religious adviser to Trump. Both Trump and Falwell would feel the heat of evangelical opprobrium—and then be subsequently reinstated.

Trump did face a day of reckoning immediately after the release of the Access Hollywood clip. Pastor James MacDonald, then of the enormous Harvest Bible Church in Elgin, Illinois, and a member of Trump’s Evangelical Advisory Committee, condemned what he heard on the tape as “lecherous and worthless.” What’s more, he publicly resigned from his coveted role on the campaign. The next day, the hugely popular Christian Post would report that a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll revealed that Trump’s evangelical support had “plummeted” by 11 points. Clearly, this wasn’t the end. Both Grudem and MacDonald would return to the fold and applaud Trump’s accomplishments. In a post-election interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network’s Pat Robertson, Evangelical publishing titan, Steven Strang, of Charisma Media, pointed out that “God intervened” and evangelicals voted for Trump in record numbers, even though Trump was a guy “we didn’t even necessarily like.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/08/why-evangelicals-couldnt-care-less-about-trumps-epstein-scandal/

They have a long history of falling for narcissists posing as Saviors. This one is no different and no less dangerous.
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Why Evangelicals Couldn't Care Less About Trump's Epstein Scandal (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Aug 11 OP
Republicans and Evangelicals took the Christ out of Christian. pwb Aug 11 #1
They think hildegaard28 Aug 11 #2
Because they are about as "Christian" as my dog is "Sumerian..." hlthe2b Aug 11 #3
Evangelicals need to be told what to think by certain faith leaders combined with FOX news Blue Owl Aug 11 #4
They also have probably bamagal62 Aug 11 #5
Trump will hasten the "End Times" Zorro Aug 11 #6

pwb

(12,356 posts)
1. Republicans and Evangelicals took the Christ out of Christian.
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 12:36 PM
Aug 11

They are Christ opposite. IMO.

hildegaard28

(779 posts)
2. They think
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 12:47 PM
Aug 11

It’s the natural order of things for grown men to abuse young girls. Just look at how many evangelical preachers get caught doing it.

hlthe2b

(111,269 posts)
3. Because they are about as "Christian" as my dog is "Sumerian..."
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 01:50 PM
Aug 11

I'd be happy to learn otherwise about the latter, but I have no reason to reassess with respect to the first.

Honestly, all they ever talk about is the punitive and abusive aspects of the Old Testament, so how DO THEY CALL THEMSELVES "CHRISTIANS?" Really...

bamagal62

(4,159 posts)
5. They also have probably
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 03:08 PM
Aug 11

become inured to sexual abuse stories, as it seems to happen often in church communities.

Zorro

(17,868 posts)
6. Trump will hasten the "End Times"
Mon Aug 11, 2025, 06:26 PM
Aug 11

Nuclear war in the Mideast.

That's what they're looking forward to.

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