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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Mon Aug 18, 2025, 04:57 PM Aug 18

Trump Blocking Ukraine from NATO Isn't Strategy--It's Submission

Donald Trump is still reeling from the embarrassment Putin handed him in Alaska—and last night, he handed Russia another massive win. On Truth Social, he declared that under no circumstances would Ukraine be allowed to join NATO—just hours before meeting with President Zelensky and European leaders.

That’s not just weak. It’s reckless. It tells every authoritarian on Earth that under Donald Trump, the U.S. can be bullied. And it’s a strategic faceplant that gives Putin exactly what he’s wanted for years: a permanent veto over Ukraine’s future.

Let’s be clear: peace comes through strength and unity. Russia only escalated when it sensed division and weakness in the West and saw an opportunity. Biden and European leaders called that bluff by rallying behind Ukraine, exposing Russia’s military as inept and weak. Trump, for both economic and diplomatic reasons, brought that weakness back—first by getting worked by Putin last week, and now by handing him his biggest ask on a silver (or likely, gold) platter.

Letting Ukraine into NATO wouldn’t inflame this war—it would help prevent the next one. It would slam the door on future invasions and send a clear message to every power-hungry war criminal: mess with our allies, and you pay the price. A strong, united front. That’s why Putin fears it.

https://endlessurgency.com/p/trump-blocking-ukraine-from-nato

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Trump Blocking Ukraine from NATO Isn't Strategy--It's Submission (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 18 OP
If it wasn't Trump, it would be Orban Fiendish Thingy Aug 18 #1

Fiendish Thingy

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1. If it wasn't Trump, it would be Orban
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 05:36 PM
Aug 18

Even if Harris had won and the US supported Ukraine joining NATO, Orban could block it.

The EU is going to have to come up with a workaround, with the major players drafting a mutual defense agreement similar to NATO that includes Ukraine.

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