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lees1975

(6,864 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:05 AM Nov 11

Poised on the brink of a knockout punch, Senate Democrats throw in the towel

https://signalpress.blogspot.com/2025/11/poised-on-brink-of-knockout-punch.html

I used to think that there might actually come a day when this country would get its politics together, wake up to what is being done to it politically, and unite behind the leadership of the Democratic party to throw out the fascists and set up an era of peace and restoration that would last at least as long as the Roosevelt restoration did. With November's election results, polling data that shows the Trump administration has lost way more ground than they can afford, the growing momentum behind the marches and protests under the "No Kings"banner, signs that the government shutdown was putting tremendous pressure on the GOP with some members of both the House and Senate ready to back down and make a deal, that old line political gamesmanship from out of a time when negotiation and give and take actually worked raised its ugly head among Senate Democrats and edged eight of them out of line into capitulation.

Instead of holding their ground on the one thing they had claimed was worth fighting to keep, they buckled under pressure from somewhere, and threw in the towel. I have to hold myself back from writing words that I might regret, feeling betrayed as I am right now, and lost. Trump, squirming and bucking and showing signs that he was going to have to find a way to cut and run without looking like he was cutting and running was given a beautifully wrapped gift by these eight Democrats who still, after nine years of his rhetoric and actions, don't seem to see that he's a threat to American democracy.


We've gotten so used to this modus operandi of our party leadership that the apologists and little Mary Sunshines were out early, trying to find ways to explain away what can't be explained away. The mixed messages are frustrating and baffling. Trump is, all at once, the greatest threat to democracy in all of American history, and yet, well, to these eight Senators, maybe they're not on board with that and he's just another corrupt Republican politician, oh, well, huh?

Everything that the marches and protests, and last Tuesday's elections, and the pressure on the Republicans because of the shutdown had gained up to this point has been lost. We've gone from heartfelt and enthusiastic talk just a week ago that the Senate might realistically be in play in the midterms, to greater uncertainty about even being able to win a House majority, after this fiasco. It's quite possible that we not only won't get control of either house in the mid-terms now, but we very likely may have just handed Trump a third term, or at least, helped the Republican nominee to the White House in 2028.
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Poised on the brink of a knockout punch, Senate Democrats throw in the towel (Original Post) lees1975 Nov 11 OP
Key excerpt Cirsium Nov 11 #1
Regarding the promised December vote on ACA subsidies. Frasier Balzov Nov 11 #5
Not sure about the last line, but overall... yeah. luv2fly Nov 11 #2
Effective noon today I am no longer a registered Democrat nutshell2002 Nov 11 #3
Last line of the article. lees1975 Nov 11 #6
Well, we more or less forced our "team" to stand up on something after bashing them last CR vote. Hopefully, Silent Type Nov 11 #4
Yeah, when was the last time either of those things went the Democrat's way? lees1975 Nov 11 #7
Schumer dawgdan Nov 11 #8
Death nwliberalkiwi Nov 11 #9
I agree with Lawrence LetMyPeopleVote Nov 11 #10
More Lawrence LetMyPeopleVote Nov 13 #11

Frasier Balzov

(4,746 posts)
5. Regarding the promised December vote on ACA subsidies.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:32 AM
Nov 11

Will cloture be waived by unanimous consent so that an up-or-down vote may proceed?

luv2fly

(2,584 posts)
2. Not sure about the last line, but overall... yeah.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:26 AM
Nov 11

But you know, Lawrence OD and the resident mutually high-fiving "moderates" claim the Republicans are the ones who caved so, clearly, all the rest of us should just shut up as we have been told to do so eloquently.

nutshell2002

(179 posts)
3. Effective noon today I am no longer a registered Democrat
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:30 AM
Nov 11

Will it have any impact on the world? Nope. Have I been smiling since I pressed that “Submit” button on my registration? You bet.

lees1975

(6,864 posts)
6. Last line of the article.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:34 AM
Nov 11
This is how they've made me feel. And here's something else to consider, after working up all this momentum, and having things finally start to point in our direction, how many others have been utterly discouraged by these eight Senators who will never experience anything out here like we are going to go through? We can't afford this.

And it damn well better change.


After the small gains in party membership we've been seeing, after years of losses, I have to wonder how many others feel the same way now? And while one withdrawal might not have any impact on the world, several million will send a clear message to the party leadership.

Or will it? They seem bent on shooting themselves in the foot.

Silent Type

(12,166 posts)
4. Well, we more or less forced our "team" to stand up on something after bashing them last CR vote. Hopefully,
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:31 AM
Nov 11

we score on a Hail Mary in December, or score big in midterms by offering better, doable policies.

lees1975

(6,864 posts)
7. Yeah, when was the last time either of those things went the Democrat's way?
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:45 AM
Nov 11

Not happening. But you make the point very well. We are, once again, in a position of compromise with a fascist we've been told is the greatest threat to American democracy we've ever seen. Is that last line the genuine conviction of Democratic members of Congress, or is that just to keep the cattle in the pen? I believe it and I expect that the politicians I have helped finance, and voted for to elect, share the conviction well enough to be willing to pay whatever political price they have to pay for putting up opposition to it. If they're not willing to make that sacrifice, then neither am I willing to support them.

I'm also a financial contributor to, and supporter of the free speech that is permitted on this board. And I'll bet we are about to see that threatened as well, by the Little Mary Sunshines and the Apologists for Democratic party establishment.

nwliberalkiwi

(418 posts)
9. Death
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:55 AM
Nov 11

How many are going to die without health care. We stand to lose our rural hospital and all the jobs it provides for our community.

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