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Dulcinea

(9,500 posts)
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:34 AM Nov 11

Here's what's in the Senate deal to end the government shutdown

(CBS News) Washington — The Senate took a major step toward ending the government shutdown late Monday by passing a funding bill that unlocks a broader agreement on long-term spending and the promise of a future vote on extending health care tax credits.

The vote was 60-40, with eight Democrats providing the votes needed. One Republican voted against it.

The eight Democrats had been engaged in bipartisan talks over ending the stalemate for several weeks, and reached the agreement without the support of the party's leaders in the upper chamber. The House could vote on the bill as early as Wednesday, and if it passes, it will go to President Trump's desk.

The agreement they struck does nothing to address the expiring health care tax credits — which had been their party's key demand — besides the promise of a future vote on the issue. The deal left many Democrats furious with the eight senators who voted to advance it and with the party's leaders for allowing the defections.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/heres-whats-senate-deal-end-164331956.html

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Here's what's in the Senate deal to end the government shutdown (Original Post) Dulcinea Nov 11 OP
Jeanne Shaheen stated that Schumer knew what they were doing. gab13by13 Nov 11 #1
She never said anything implying that he didn't oppose the move. FBaggins Nov 11 #5
Well, the fact that the "eight" were picked for a particular reason is very telling. hamsterjill Nov 11 #9
They should also be furious choie Nov 11 #2
God, that is pitiful. Scrivener7 Nov 11 #3
Krasnov was going to lose his appeal to the Supreme Court to only partially fund SNAP. gab13by13 Nov 11 #4
Why would KBJ block the lower court if that were the case? FBaggins Nov 11 #6
That's not exactly what happened. ... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #12
I've read the sources. It's all over the map... FBaggins Nov 11 #14
Why are you replying to me? littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #15
It seemed polite since you replied to me FBaggins Nov 11 #16
I mean, we appear to agree here. So, I'm already... littlemissmartypants Nov 11 #17
Apologies - I must have misread it. FBaggins Nov 11 #21
Closing the loop on that one FBaggins Nov 13 #22
Everyone in Congress... 2naSalit Nov 11 #7
The budget default should be automatic renewal IbogaProject Nov 11 #8
I'm seeing on social media that Democrats agreed to include a provision for a national abortion ban hamsterjill Nov 11 #10
It Wasn't A Clean Bill DallasNE Nov 11 #11
There's much in this "package" that nobody is talking about as moniss Nov 11 #13
Americans were supposed to get $5,000 in DOGE money -- which was never paid out. Why didn't our D in2herbs Nov 11 #18
So the only things they (dems) got in this agreement Figarosmom Nov 11 #19
Hey, yahoo, and other nitwit media: 7 Dems. 1 Ind. niyad Nov 11 #20

gab13by13

(30,783 posts)
1. Jeanne Shaheen stated that Schumer knew what they were doing.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:47 AM
Nov 11

The members of her committee advised him regularly.

hamsterjill

(16,870 posts)
9. Well, the fact that the "eight" were picked for a particular reason is very telling.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:58 PM
Nov 11

Mainly that none of them face a primary in 2026. Am I right? Am I wrong?

choie

(6,459 posts)
2. They should also be furious
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 08:47 AM
Nov 11

With Schumer who is complicit, if not the leader of this move.

gab13by13

(30,783 posts)
4. Krasnov was going to lose his appeal to the Supreme Court to only partially fund SNAP.
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 09:30 AM
Nov 11

The decision could have come as early as this week.

littlemissmartypants

(30,964 posts)
12. That's not exactly what happened. ...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:25 PM
Nov 11

It's much more nuanced than that. She did something very strategic and there are plenty of sources that explain the importance of her very good ruling.

FBaggins

(28,597 posts)
14. I've read the sources. It's all over the map...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:36 PM
Nov 11

... but the once constant is that she knew if she passed it to the full court for consideration (or tried to allow the lower court's ruling to stand), the full court would block the order.

I've seen no speculation from a knowledgeable source indicating that SCOTUS would force the administration to fund SNAP beyond the normal funding that Congress had provided (and which had run out).

littlemissmartypants

(30,964 posts)
17. I mean, we appear to agree here. So, I'm already...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:59 PM
Nov 11

Convinced that KBJ was between a rock and a hard place and did the best she could with what she had.

She likely was more measured and discerning than others may have been given the same situation.

Some here however, may see things as more either/or.

The decision escaped the boundaries of a purely up or down ruling. I'm not sure how many others realize that.

FBaggins

(28,597 posts)
22. Closing the loop on that one
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:48 AM
Nov 13

SCOTUS extended KBJ's pause while the political process ran (over KBJ's solo objection)... and the issue is likely now moot.

2naSalit

(99,178 posts)
7. Everyone in Congress...
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 12:32 PM
Nov 11

Shouldn't be paid while there is a shutdown or allowed to eat while people are not allowed to use their SNAP benefits which, I will add, takes fourteen contorted runarounds, an elaborate hoop dance followed by a continuous performance of the dance of the seven fucking veils just to see if you qualify.

And if you do, you have to do the hoop dance every 6 months to remain qualified.

I, personally, have qualified for SNAP since before I retired but once I started receiving SSDI I dropped it. It was too much bullshit to go through for $40/month. I can find $40 for food if I actually have a little money ...and others need it far more than I do so I decided I wouldn't bother.

But I KNOW all that goes into proving you qualify and remain qualified and it's not easy by any stretch of the imagination. If half the people who complain about SNAP beneficiaries had to go through all that bullshit, they'd think differently about it.

IbogaProject

(5,463 posts)
8. The budget default should be automatic renewal
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 01:52 PM
Nov 11

Belgium went years with their parlanent in a deadlock, they just adjusted the old buget up for inflation. The cliff should only be on mechanations. If congress takes too long they can then take all year for the next budget.

hamsterjill

(16,870 posts)
10. I'm seeing on social media that Democrats agreed to include a provision for a national abortion ban
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:03 PM
Nov 11

Any truth to that? Because somehow, it wouldn't surprise me at this point.

The relevance would be whether ACA coverage included abortion or after care of an abortion that didn't go well. The "pro-lifers" would gladly watch a woman suffer and die if she had gone through an abortion and needed medical care.

DallasNE

(7,928 posts)
11. It Wasn't A Clean Bill
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:05 PM
Nov 11

What happened to the language Sen. Paul objected to on Marijuana and the retroactive bill to allow 6 Senators to sue the federal government over some J6 issues? There may have been others, too, that I didn't hear about.

moniss

(8,479 posts)
13. There's much in this "package" that nobody is talking about as
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 02:27 PM
Nov 11

you pointed out. I would expect that if people look there are some nice "goodies" for the 8 who turned yellow and defected.

in2herbs

(4,083 posts)
18. Americans were supposed to get $5,000 in DOGE money -- which was never paid out. Why didn't our D
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 04:44 PM
Nov 11

lawmakers raise this issue before the shutdown and demand this money before the fight about re-opening the govt?

If the average SNAP payment is $400/month (this is a high figure) by getting this $5,000 of DOGE money every American receiving SNAP payments could be assured of not going hungry for a year and our lawmakers would not have caved to the Rs.



Figarosmom

(9,226 posts)
19. So the only things they (dems) got in this agreement
Tue Nov 11, 2025, 05:56 PM
Nov 11

We're things that the courts already restored ( SNAP benifits)and things that were already law.(paying back pay of furloughed employees) and all the layoffs I'm sure would have won in courts for reinstatement.

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