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Duncanpup

(15,049 posts)
Tue May 13, 2025, 05:24 AM May 2025

Old Appalachian dialect.

Was having coffee and i ran across this about old Appalachian dialect.
Flowers -Flars
Oil-Earl
Coal mines-He’s done got him a job in the coald mines.
Steel mill - Still mill
Wash - Warsh
Bite or bitten- He almost got snake bit by a rattler.
Borrow-Baree
Orange -Orynge
Cove - Narrow valley
Crick - Creek
Seven -Sevum
Bar room -Beer Garten
Often -Regular as in i do that regular.
Fish -Feesh
And i was thinking the last person i knew who spoke old Appalachian passed in 2004 my grandmother.

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Old Appalachian dialect. (Original Post) Duncanpup May 2025 OP
Never lived near Appalachia, born and raised in Kansas but I have used some of those pronunciations... wcmagumba May 2025 #1
Born and raised 14 miles from Cumberland Gap, TN, on the Kentucky side of the mountain... kentuck May 2025 #2
Heard that dialect... k0rs May 2025 #3
My grandmother pronounced wash as 'warsh' Siwsan May 2025 #4
Great stuff k0rs May 2025 #6
"Warsh" was/is a very midwestern (MO, KS, IA, AR, NB) thing... My Mom who was from the region used to say that too hlthe2b May 2025 #31
My kin over yonder in West Virginy used them. doc03 May 2025 #5
Chimbley, Ambleeance k0rs May 2025 #7
Ohio-Ahia Pittsburgh-Picksburg Washington-Worshington nt doc03 May 2025 #11
Dizanee - Disney, Chimley - Chimney, Libary- Library, Red it up - Rid it up. My people. twodogsbarking May 2025 #8
"Go to the hill communities in Pa." BumRushDaShow May 2025 #9
Ever been to Warshington? It's Pennsavamya. Yous. twodogsbarking May 2025 #12
I live in Ahia about 35 miles from what most people call Little Worshington PA, was it doc03 May 2025 #17
As a retired fed, you know I have been there and D.C. metro a million times BumRushDaShow May 2025 #21
I have known many really great people from Philly. twodogsbarking May 2025 #25
I grew up in the southern Appalachians of north Georgia. Glorfindel May 2025 #26
My nephew and friend went up to Baltimore to work... kentuck May 2025 #10
A friend from West VA tymfinity46 May 2025 #13
My mother had a friend from Boston and she liked how she said "fork". twodogsbarking May 2025 #14
Reminds me of taking my NY aunt to a museum near Norfolk VA wishstar May 2025 #19
I worked in steel mill warehouse near Pittsburgh. There was one local truck driver doc03 May 2025 #15
Carbonated beverage Randomthought May 2025 #16
It's not dead ILikePie92 May 2025 #18
Not film but filim. twodogsbarking May 2025 #20
my oldest sis who was in the biz sez filum AllaN01Bear May 2025 #23
In NYC "Deah Pahk" is Deer Park. Woman yelled at me when I couldn't understand. twodogsbarking May 2025 #27
hihi. morse code laugh. AllaN01Bear May 2025 #33
i aint Appalachian, but i have used some of those prounciations and words for years. AllaN01Bear May 2025 #22
My dad was born and raised in Chicago - Hyde Park, South side. 3catwoman3 May 2025 #24
I was just thinking that the old Chicago South Side accent has a lot of those pronunciations. hedda_foil May 2025 #32
My parents were from Central PA crud May 2025 #28
I drove my mother to the store...I carried my momma down to the sto' sop May 2025 #29
"Younz et?" Krazy_Kat May 2025 #30
in my fam, we said flirs as well. AllaN01Bear May 2025 #35
many of the regional or local dialects vanished due to the introduicion radio and then tv. AllaN01Bear May 2025 #34

wcmagumba

(4,629 posts)
1. Never lived near Appalachia, born and raised in Kansas but I have used some of those pronunciations...
Tue May 13, 2025, 05:28 AM
May 2025

My parents grew up in Arkansas so maybe I heard them speak this way....not sure...

kentuck

(114,517 posts)
2. Born and raised 14 miles from Cumberland Gap, TN, on the Kentucky side of the mountain...
Tue May 13, 2025, 06:23 AM
May 2025

I have heard them all my life.

When something smelled really bad, it smelt like kairn.

Much of it was passed down from the Scotch Irish.

k0rs

(141 posts)
3. Heard that dialect...
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:12 AM
May 2025

...or should say "Heerd that talk" in rural Illinois growing up.

Overheard two fishermen conversing about carp feeshin' in the Hennepin canal:

"Kitch a big nanny?"

"Ain't bin yit."

Siwsan

(27,660 posts)
4. My grandmother pronounced wash as 'warsh'
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:29 AM
May 2025

She also called the sink a 'zink'. She was born in Sand Patch, Pennsylvania and then moved to Frostburg, MD.

My grandfather, who died before I was born, was a coal miner until he was trapped in a mine collapse. He moved the family to Flint, MI and started working at 'the' Buick. I never heard anyone say they worked at Buick. It was always the Buick.

k0rs

(141 posts)
6. Great stuff
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:38 AM
May 2025

I could speak the dialect pretty well myself. My Mom said "warsh." A treasure trove of local culture for a young soc/anth major (me). I had to be careful not to come off as a "Smart-ass colletch kid." I worked my way thru school delivering home appliances and was often in rural and farm homes. Speaking the language was sort of oral camouflage.

hlthe2b

(111,123 posts)
31. "Warsh" was/is a very midwestern (MO, KS, IA, AR, NB) thing... My Mom who was from the region used to say that too
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:26 PM
May 2025

It brought a smile just thinking about it.

doc03

(38,309 posts)
5. My kin over yonder in West Virginy used them.
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:32 AM
May 2025

Some others:

Window-Winder
paper bag-poke
Over there-over yonder
Narrow valley-holler


twodogsbarking

(15,315 posts)
8. Dizanee - Disney, Chimley - Chimney, Libary- Library, Red it up - Rid it up. My people.
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:51 AM
May 2025

Go to the hill communities in Pa.

BumRushDaShow

(158,994 posts)
9. "Go to the hill communities in Pa."
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:03 AM
May 2025

You can just come into Philly and hear it too. I know I say "warsh" clothes.

"Wooder" for "water"
"Lie-berry" for "library"
"Payment" for "pavement"
"Aka-mee" for "Acme"

doc03

(38,309 posts)
17. I live in Ahia about 35 miles from what most people call Little Worshington PA, was it
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:41 AM
May 2025

ever officially called Little Washington at one time?

BumRushDaShow

(158,994 posts)
21. As a retired fed, you know I have been there and D.C. metro a million times
Tue May 13, 2025, 10:24 AM
May 2025

My car could drive itself there and back.

I remember years ago when I had direct-reports in "Baldamore" and going down there and realizing that the dialect was close to that of a number of neighborhoods here in "Fluffia". Speaker Emeritus Nancy Pelosi has some of that old accent - despite being in California for decades (although she was born and raised in Baltimore).

Then I found an article that actually described that dialect and noted what regions it existed in and sure enough!

You hear the "older" versions of if with some former MSNBC folks like Tweety and Smerconish (and there was a South Philly vs NE Philly accent too). You even hear it from Andrea Mitchell who although from NY, went to school here in Philly and was a local reporter (and she says "Warshington" along with Philly native Kristen Welker).



https://www.thedp.com/article/2018/11/philadelphia-accent-linguistics-upenn-penn-philly

But what is wild is that over my lifetime, and particularly the last 30 years, I detected an entirely new dialect that emerged out of my nieces/nephews and their millennial age group, and they all lived and went to school in Philly, so the closed nasally sound is going away and has been replaced by something also unique that is like an open nasally sound.

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2018/12/04/philly-accent-millennials/

(thank you for sending me down the rabbit hole... again... )

Glorfindel

(10,159 posts)
26. I grew up in the southern Appalachians of north Georgia.
Tue May 13, 2025, 12:53 PM
May 2025

I was surrounded by people who used many of those expressions/pronunciations. Here, "redd it up" means "get it ready," but I haven't heard that phrase used in many years.

kentuck

(114,517 posts)
10. My nephew and friend went up to Baltimore to work...
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:14 AM
May 2025

..and his friend went up to ask the price of motel room?

He said, "How much would a room like'at run a feller"?

The lady look puzzled? What did he say?

wishstar

(5,763 posts)
19. Reminds me of taking my NY aunt to a museum near Norfolk VA
Tue May 13, 2025, 09:04 AM
May 2025

My strait laced aunt was visibly shocked how the docent pronounced Norfolk to our group of visitors touring the site.

My aunt also didn't approve of my Western NC spouse's and best friend's "improper" grammar as they both use present tense instead of past tense at times with certain verbs for example saying "He run down the trail" instead of "He ran down the trail"

doc03

(38,309 posts)
15. I worked in steel mill warehouse near Pittsburgh. There was one local truck driver
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:25 AM
May 2025

that came in often that I had a hard time understanding. I asked one of the other drivers from the
company where that guy was from. He was born and raised right here but worked in North Carolina for
8 years.

Randomthought

(917 posts)
16. Carbonated beverage
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:27 AM
May 2025

Was called dope
BTW poke comes from Scottish garlic
Holler for hollow
Lots of others from my SW Virginia family

 

ILikePie92

(223 posts)
18. It's not dead
Tue May 13, 2025, 08:45 AM
May 2025

I'm from SW Va, I hear this all the time when I go home to visit. Still have to purposely keep myself from saying "warsh" my clothes.

twodogsbarking

(15,315 posts)
27. In NYC "Deah Pahk" is Deer Park. Woman yelled at me when I couldn't understand.
Tue May 13, 2025, 12:56 PM
May 2025

Then she yells the spelling D E E AH P A AH K. I am still laughing decades latah.

3catwoman3

(27,543 posts)
24. My dad was born and raised in Chicago - Hyde Park, South side.
Tue May 13, 2025, 11:29 AM
May 2025

He said warsh. Window sills were window seels. He could never say Toyota properly - Toyauto. Our family ended up in Rochester NY when I was 8, and he always pronounced it "Rockchester."

My husband's dad grew up on Long Island. He had a earl boiner (oil burner) in the basement of their home as their source of heat.

When we settled in Rochester, my new friends laughed at my pronunciation of the word "on," which I say as awn, like in lawn or awning. In Rochester, everyone say "aahn," which sounds like the first syllable of honest.

I'm loving this thread.

hedda_foil

(16,815 posts)
32. I was just thinking that the old Chicago South Side accent has a lot of those pronunciations.
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:45 PM
May 2025

I wonder how that happened.

crud

(1,045 posts)
28. My parents were from Central PA
Tue May 13, 2025, 12:58 PM
May 2025

Adding to the list, my mom called the door step a stoop. Cleaning up the house was called redding up the house.

Krazy_Kat

(51 posts)
30. "Younz et?"
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:10 PM
May 2025

That was my relative in W. Va. asking us if we had already had our lunch! My friend's parents were from western PA and they always said "earl" for oil and "flars" for flowers.

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