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sinkingfeeling
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(52,869 posts)nocoincidences
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(8,841 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(12,849 posts)Also organized.
dweller
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BamaRefugee
(3,824 posts)anciano
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(362 posts)lpbk2713
(43,230 posts)Well OK ... two words.
True Dough
(24,159 posts)from a bubbly DUer!
As for how I'd never be described, I think it would have to be Mensa candidate.
markie
(23,572 posts)lazy... I feel lazy sometimes, however never appear that way
Diamond_Dog
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(76 posts)Skittles
(166,982 posts)Morbius
(643 posts)Rich.
Well-educated.
Racist.
Religious.
Stylish.
Agile.
Sexy.
I'm going to stop now. I'm depressing myself.
3catwoman3
(27,571 posts)I am reserved to a fault.
I've often thought it could be fun to be a restaurant or movie critic and get paid to say, "That really sucked," of "That was really stupid," and not have to feel guilty about saying it. But, I'm sure I wouldn't like all the crappy movies I'd have to sit thru.
On the few occasions I do go to a movie, it apparent within about 10 seconds of watching the trailers that most of the upcoming filmss would be of no interest to me at all.
Skittles
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Phoenix61
(18,541 posts)debm55
(50,419 posts)FirstLight
(15,722 posts)I'm too nice to people I need to start getting meaner... 😈
unblock
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PJMcK
(24,162 posts)BOSSHOG
(43,628 posts)Dem2theMax
(10,965 posts)Skittles
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Dem2theMax
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Skittles
(166,982 posts)these are very trying times indeed
Enter stage left
(4,098 posts)CanonRay
(15,557 posts)😀
I'm constantly hitting up tall people at the grocery store for those items high on the shelf - they don't seem to mind. I cannot bring myself to carry around one of those grabber things......
Tetrachloride
(8,916 posts)and
close minded
I am as open as an upside down book.
piddyprints
(15,008 posts)Im always doing something.
LoisB
(11,517 posts)Collimator
(1,962 posts)I am a walking marshmallow.
Mike 03
(18,683 posts)Grim Chieftain
(537 posts)Or Republican, but that's two words and would break the rules.
Skittles
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pacalo
(24,799 posts)I'm 5'9".
OldBaldy1701E
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(21,637 posts)and I really had to think about my answer
Good one 👍
The Blue Flower
(6,131 posts)or LOUD
aeromanKC
(3,698 posts)Ocelot II
(126,872 posts)*thud* Oops, sorry.
Passages
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catbyte
(37,674 posts)I despise "drama," game playing, and all that nonsense.
Everyone in my family are quiet talkers including me.
one of my favorite mean tweets:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/H8siDn3tfp4
That being said, I believe my family talks at a normal volume to most people.
Me? I have sensitive hearing, so what may be quiet to most, is normal to me.
LogDog75
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(10,000 posts)peggysue2
(12,136 posts)Charlize Theron = statuesque
Peggysue= not so much.
ProfessorGAC
(74,182 posts)I'm a extraextrovert.
marble falls
(67,809 posts)ProfessorGAC
(74,182 posts)But, it's something. I'm the guy that starts conversations with people in line at the supermarket.
Withdrawn, I ain't!
marble falls
(67,809 posts)ProfessorGAC
(74,182 posts)I know exactly what you mean!
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(57,969 posts)greatauntoftriplets
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(15,911 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:03 PM - Edit history (4)
(And evidently going by the length of this post-clipped/succinct etc)
However, please bear with me Skittles while I enlarge on that. Your post evoked an existential issue around identity and free will I have been pondering.
I keep reading that humans are social and sometimes when you are preoccupied you vaguely go huh?. However, as a subset of technologies get more intrusive, you do start to wonder..
I dont accept that it is broadly true that humans are wired to be hyper-social online or offline having thought about it. Yasha Levine, whom I generally respect, recently said that he doesnt think that the social web will change the world for the better and that indeed it may be making things worse. That was my intuition as well. Though I dont think irl organizing is the fix either without dramatic changes to modern life which I at least cant see succumbing to.
This pitch seems to come from : 1)social media companies on the one hand and 2) a subset of very social people with large circles irl on the other. That also seems more correlated with religiosity (benign or scary) than not. Maybe if you believe in God anyway you are never alone? An odd notion when you really examine it..Is God like an inescapable police state? The problem of other minds.
I at least largely see these connection technologies (beyond the essential) or truly cool (if that ever happens), as a nuisance, time suck and think they will go nowhere. This hyper-connected world is draining, a huge bore and offers no utility.
Most emerging tech seems like such trash. Now I respect Yan LeCuns take on AI for instance. He is the sole scientist in that field aside from DAIR (which is tiny and on the outs typically) who doesnt sound incomprehensibly Hollywood. Thats a weird field. No one in the biological sciences goes around hyperventilating about biowarfare which is far more real.
Generic rubbishy Agentic AI or chatGPT seem likeannoying nuisances. Non-profits like the NIH or NIST could probably make decent AI. But does NIST even exist still? And without someone like the awesome Lina Khan around to regulate tech, I feel gloomy overall.
As for the web, I am still mildly fond of DU-Auld Lang Syne and all..but thats about it.
I must confess to being a fan of the atomized modern existence (whats wrong with that when you are not bothering anyone else and paying taxes/voting/working or doing adequate amounts of voluntary work/making charitable donations etc). I feel a bit defensive and resentful about implicit suggestions that..well..that one should leave ones room when one doesnt absolutely have to.
I thought not having to meet people beyond the essentials was the whole point of a home, modern society etc. However, the more religious (whose cultures are different) tend to have larger families and over time my type of lifestyle-solitary, bookish and happy (J D Vances much maligned childfree catlady) can seem endangered.
IMO people conflate the issues with technology with voluntary cultural differences such as smaller families, innate introversion, liking personal space, non religiosity etc. Being solitary/an atheist, having a small family etc is not a mental disease. Its a choice and one that factors in the environment for real not just as an externality the free market will fix etc.
Left or right we seem headed towards Harry Harrisons Make Room! Make Room! world.
I really frowned over it wondering if I was a misanthrope (which didnt really fit because I am an animal lover and humans are animals). Given that I like animals it seems unlikely that I dislike even this rambunctious, very populous and somewhat destructive animal.
It was an identity issue that was confusing me since I prefer a kindly worldview (as long as the obligatory suffering of fools or worse creepy and boring men is not demanded).
I got a possible solution re what my worldview could be oddly enough from a piece by Ed Zitron on how ai cannot really rip off Carlin. I saw a piece in The Humanist later on regarding Carlins humanist misanthropy. That is quite possibly my own worldview- benign misanthropy ;-/. Because paranoid or angry misanthropy didnt fit.
It was a good article on how Carlin thought individual humans are okay, but in groups and mobs, collective intelligence seems to typically drop rather than rise. Or that was my takeaway.
Humans could be mostly harmless given a shot. But in this overpopulated global society which is experiencing resource strain on every part of the planet, everything looks like its in free fall.
I do notice that most people dont actually choose to be packed together like sardines. It seems non-optional rather. And even in large families you have a large contingent that likes solitude.
There arent really very many stable jobs, most random jobs are vanishing thanks to ai and infrastructure is getting worse. The quality of healthcare or education access gets worse.
While you can churn out humans relatively fast, you still cant produce enough oncologists, scientists, educators, plumbers or electricians.
Human dignity does seem to go down with overcrowding. And our industries are turning out such junk-truly E M Forsters Machine for Secondhand Ideas.
Replacing journalism/writing with rot like Substack and services/education with that awful and useless GPT thing/edtech/medtech makes little sense.
Graeber got it re: bullshit jobs, which is what the private sector in tech seems to largely produce.
I shudder to think of the day OncologyGPT arrives because doctors are that short of time. A rando human caregiver would be luck of the draw.
And yet we are in so much denial about it that falling birth rates are apparently the concern .
Whether libertarian or Marxist, more babies to feed the efficiency machine seems like the worst fucking idea ever.
I recently read in the Jacobin what I considered the worst supposedly leftish oped ever written. It was by someone called Ben Wray where he referred to reproductive choice/abortion rights as popular.
Well there you go ladies ..our rights are still popular. Isnt that cool? I really like it when womens rights come back in fashion!
He cited two economists who really talk about humans as if we are legos (to quote Andrew Nikiforuk of the Tyee) and thats left? Cant be.
Anyway how is it left to ignore the effects humans are having on the planet? A moral obscenity like ventilation shutdown is a barometer of societal sociopathy and it is casually normalized now.
Except for say Nathan Robinson, Maria Bolotnikova or Samuel MacDonald Miller the media (outside of dedicated greens) barely touches on topics like those.
Its fascinating how environmental issues, reproductive choice for women at any rate seem to have become outdated and even passe.
It feels more and more like all the major religions and a significant enough segment of the male population has quietly dispensed with more universal values like feminism, separation of religion and state etc. We nonreligious, childfree feminists do seem to be getting muscled out entirely.
Thine loin is not fruitful heathen female-thou has no rights
Idiocracy but even more brutal strikes me as a perfect depiction of this reality ;-/. Its one of the biggest failures of global public health to not have included information about the benefits of family planning with drops in infant mortality and increasing life span. And pointing out the benefits for non-human life/planet.
Apparently you cannot call any choices selfish except those made by billionaires or us childfree who are managing on our own.
The goal seems to be to destroy pensions and social safety nets, strip-mine the planet and exploit humans to the fucking hilt sans regulations or much real democracy, destroy journalism and education and healthcare. Keep making more exploding rockets/junk ai while defunding science.
Anyway I digress Skittles. What was the question again? What word doesnt describe me? Yeah - sociable. It sounds exhausting.
Sorry about this meditative stream of consciousness. I have been pondering free will.
Apparently determinism predicts that the only people in society with a say are somewhat controlling, pushy, alpha, truly agentic(!), ultra super free will (!) types or the very gregarious.
Or thats my sardonic take.
Which makes me vaguely wonder what I should do. How much free will can a person like me (who detests non-essential communication) even have in a hideously social, Pronatalist, increasingly religious, sexist, hyper-connected and overcrowded world?
I do wonder about determinism and free will.
Whether it is proliferation of junk tech or human overpopulation, neither seems to be particularly conducive to collective societal free will.
I do feel we are too inter-connected-especially when its as confusing and non-specific as it seems to be.
Skittles
(166,982 posts)Sociably I do much better online than in real life but I've always thought that was because of my upbringing as GI brat who moved a lot, sometimes overseas......I remember during Covid thinking people were ridiculous "missing" being around people when they could talk on the phone, text, skype - heck, for years at a time snail mail was it for me - I used to draw the outline of my hand on the back of an envelope so my grandparents could "see" me growing.
I do think, however, that overuse of texting, for example, instead of talking with someone in real life or on the phone may make people very much less able to interpret the emotions of others based on sound and expressions. So it's like we are over-connected while simultaneously becoming more disconnected than ever.
your post would be good as a thread on its own
jfz9580m
(15,911 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:05 PM - Edit history (1)
Before it became this adbot/social media and influencer (a truly bizarre profession) filled thingie.
I mostly used the web when I was slacking off at work circa 2001-2011 ;-/..my worst nightmare would have been one of my mentors seeing the amount of time I spent browsing DU or diet blogs along with regulation, dutiful forays into pubmed/hyperphysics/wikipedia etc.
The web is a bloody trap from the pov of the typical, yesteryear, white-collar lameo like moi.
For aesthetic reasons I have a strict policy separating my private life (politics, disease, personal stuff) from my work life, where I try to strictly stick to work, unless I am in the middle of a breakdown.
That was something I appreciated about that Rick RudeCalves guy who started that Vance couch joke. At a time when it feels as if every rando with an opinion is trying to go viral unless they work in classified work, its comforting that there are still people who like to stay anonymous for reasons other than terror over asshole employers or the police etc
I disapprove of this casual slide into a make-believe world where simply for basic typing skills you can now command attention.
A small, quiet community like DU is one thing, but most of the web is pretty ghastly.
I thought about this when I was comparing say Physics Stack Exchange with its polar opposites-Twitter, Facebook, Substack.
You work in cybersecurity right Skittles? I would guess Stack Overflow is the same.
You cant just go on PSE and start gassing away. And DU or the old blogs were places where people who are not professional journalists/researchers/writers etc. discuss stuff with laxer rules.
I cant help feeling that pitching this fugly mess of interconnected computers spewing drivel as democratization is not unconnected with the world we now live in..
I have been going through a slight existential crisis as a scientist - my dispassionate evaluation of myself as a scientist (if the grades were A,B,C,D) is low-C aspiring to be mid-B. I really hope it isnt low-D aspiring to be low-C. At that point I should probably find another profession.
My innate instincts favor minimalism. The web/communication technologies broadly however, increasingly favor maximal Idiocracy on steroids. But it was always a dicey tech.
I generally like Nicholas Carrs analyses and agree with his take that tech is making us stupider. That along with this piece I saw in Psychology Today on looped linear thinking (which sadly fits my unfortunate working style) is what I partially attribute my low-C grade to.
I have been pondering this as I restore some stuff that had gotten out of whack a bit. My brains prediction system or perhaps default mode had gotten a slight thwack over a decade ago and been knocked off its typical moorings. Nothing very serious, but its good to figure out how to re-orient. Direction finding in a metaphoric sense perhaps? For all that I generally do poorly on tests of spatial intelligence, this degree of confusion was unprecedented.
Its why I often think of this AI scientist Yan LeCun when trying to make sense of the tech environment we navigate these days. His focus on common sense in machines really struck a chord with me.
Skittles
(166,982 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 29, 2025, 05:02 PM - Edit history (1)
people do all they can to not watch commercials but aren't influencers doing the same thing? It boggles my mind how easily manipulated people are - heck, just look at who is playing "president" right now. Speaking of commercials, WTF is going on with celebrities, do they EVER have enough money? It broke my heart seeing Billy Bob Thornton pimping for T-Mobile, UGH! And HELEN MIRREN for Uber? JFC.
And yes I do think tech is making people dumber and AI (which like most things can be used for good or bad) will surely be accelerating that.
I do spend time on DU but I'm not on on other social media and can you believe I only check my cell phone once a day for messages....I *NEVER* have it on me.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,746 posts)
That's a good one, me either. I was leaning on girly, or delicate. Now to read the other replies and see if there are better options.
Skittles
(166,982 posts)and thought, JFC, no one would EVER say that about me
I'm always really leery of bubbly, perky folk - even that expression that someone is/was "always smiling" makes me wonder WTF is wrong with them - how can anyone LIVE in this fucking word and ALWAYS BE SMILING
Ilsa
(63,180 posts)marble falls
(67,809 posts)I'd kill the messenger.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,129 posts)I'm one of the people who gets packages off of high shelves for the vertically challenged. It's not a problem at all.
Skittles
(166,982 posts)I see store workers all the time but NEVER a tall one when I need that item high up.
greatauntoftriplets
(178,129 posts)Being 5' 10" has its advantages, seeing over crowds is one.
highplainsdem
(57,969 posts)snot
(11,279 posts)in order to elicit data for use in psychological profiling?
(I guess "trusting" might be one answer in my case.)
Skittles
(166,982 posts)I have zero doubt it is done elsewhere.
and I'm pretty sure anyone who has read, like five of my posts knows I am not the BUBBLY type
Luciferous
(6,493 posts)about how short I am.
Iggo
(49,126 posts)Well, not anymore, anyway.
Dulcinea
(9,015 posts)OK, that's 2, but I speak my mind for the most part.
sestina
(437 posts)Untruthful
Flamboyant
Solly Mack
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(9,351 posts)spooky3
(37,809 posts)My non-word: frugal
BigMin28
(1,756 posts)I am more introverted and do not like to draw attention.