... "How would you like to be woken every morning with a "OOOHHHHHH EEEEEERRRRRNY!!!!"


People loved her more for her chutzpah and drive. She was a good show tune singer. She only had two or three songs that were "hers" - that if you heard the opening bars, you'd expect to hear here belt it out, like "No business like show business.. She could certainly sell a song.


Bonus:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182197193

Unfortunately I now have her voice in my head for the entire day. My musical brain thingy works that way.

I don't understand her popularity. Irving Berlin thought she had a great voice!

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... He was great in some great movies.

His filmography is actually kind of amazing.

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls053777024

Thank you for sharing it as well as the memories of two great entertainers.

being a physical/emotional abusive monster to everybody with his perfectionism, not to mention donor to the IRA.

... hardly anyone has nothing to hide.

in the sense of, not worshiping other humans, nobody above anybody.

In my youngest life I had heroes - obviously, FDR - and also such as Andy JACKSON and Woodrow WILSON, because of the poor academic norms of back then. In my young prime JFK and LBJ were tops. And I've been crushed in my last phase of lifetime about them and many others. But it comes down to what you say, that everybody's got something, or how I put it that being human is everything altogether, which is both humanizing and knocking down a notch.

There's also a school of wit along the lines of Bette DAVIS when she heard that CRAWFORD died, "Never speak ill of the dead. She died? Good." Or the Rightwing joke about FDR, "Every morning a Fat Cat bought a newspaper, looked at the front and threw it away. The seller finally asked why he did that. The Fat Cat said he was looking for an obituary. The seller said that the obits were deep inside. The Fat Cat said, 'The one I'm looking for will be above the fold.' "

That said, it might seem crass but the hundreds of YouTubes I've seen of historical or just celeb personages have laid low EVERYBODY, history being celeb gossip. And all, human. There are some that I still like.

If you want, I'll self-delete out of your thread.

... You're one of the ones I go looking for every day! You never dumped on any of my posts to you!

I don't sweat the gossip either way. I laugh or I ignore. Of course there some who need to be forgotten. We agree: you actively believe no has anything to hide, and I passively believe there is nothing that can be hidden forever.

appreciate O'CONNOR's talent and hard times WAY more than I knew before. As for Gene, his screen charisma is just so incongruous with the extremes he demanded and had the power to inflict, and since his talent was so genius that his jealousy of O'CONNOR was about O'CONNOR's talent was a backhanded compliment - that even the maximum Gene acknowledged somebody else.

I just am fascinated when what we see on the screen is so different from the actual things.

... in their private lives. I've only read lately of Kelly's foibles. Some of them are disturbing, then I see Singing in the Rain, watch him dance with a cartoon mouse, and all the other clever situations with so many other talents and I just see actor/dance Gene Kelly.

We all have something to hide that just will not stay hidden. Some of get in front of it and some hide it unsuccessfully.

... and in Gene Kelly the musical films are perfect films mostly.

she was also in "Chicago" on Broadway.