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Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:01 PM Sunday

Just watched the worst M*A*S*H episode

In terms of anachronism and continuity -- "A War For All Seasons," the one that begins with a New Year's Eve party with Col. Potter as Father Time, ushering in 1951. Problem was, Potter didn't arrrive at the 4077th until Sept. 19, 1952.

M*A*S*H is notorious for continuity errors. How many can you think of? And, when do you think the show jumped the shark?

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Just watched the worst M*A*S*H episode (Original Post) Oeditpus Rex Sunday OP
Good gawd... Compared to the crap sitcoms and what passes for comedy today? hlthe2b Sunday #1
Why must you compare it Oeditpus Rex Sunday #7
As has already been repeatedly said to you: "this was not a documentary..." hlthe2b Monday #20
No, my comment Oeditpus Rex Monday #23
... hlthe2b Monday #29
... Oeditpus Rex Monday #32
This show lasted three times longer than the actual Korean war LetMyPeopleVote Monday #37
Why? (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Monday #39
Really? LetMyPeopleVote Monday #40
All you'd need Oeditpus Rex Yesterday #45
It's not a documentary. Ptah Sunday #2
It lasted longer than that war. Attilatheblond Sunday #4
Very astute observation Oeditpus Rex Sunday #8
Continuity errors boonecreek Sunday #3
I can think of one Oeditpus Rex Monday #13
Then there was Rob's old army buddy, boonecreek Monday #22
Wasn't Marty Ingels Oeditpus Rex Monday #35
You're right. boonecreek Monday #42
I guess his biggest claim to fame Oeditpus Rex 5 hrs ago #57
They were carpenters. boonecreek 4 hrs ago #62
Hmm... kinda like the Lounge, that last thing Oeditpus Rex 1 hr ago #65
The biggest continuity error was making a 3 year war last 10.5 on air, RockRaven Sunday #5
Big "but" here: They only wrote and taped three Ilsa Monday #31
Given that the war only lasted for 3 years and the series ran 11... Wounded Bear Sunday #6
Sorry, but as far as I am concerned, M*A*S*H* is one of the few shows that never jumped the shark. Marie Marie Sunday #9
I totally agree. 3catwoman3 Sunday #10
I agree also. Diamond_Dog Monday #30
Agree debm55 Monday #36
I agree LetMyPeopleVote Monday #38
This is the answer. ms liberty Monday #43
Agreed! electric_blue68 Yesterday #46
The shows are clearly drawn from multiple parallel universes... hunter Sunday #11
I am so happy for you that you have the time and energy for this. Most niyad Monday #12
Yeah, you're busy with important questions Oeditpus Rex Monday #14
Some poeple enjoy those threads, They are fun and get people sharing. debm55 Monday #17
Good morning, Deb. Yes, they are fun, and yes, we enjoy them. niyad Monday #18
Thank you niyad. debm55 Monday #19
It's not just the threads, deb True Dough 6 hrs ago #56
This one was intended for just that purpose Oeditpus Rex Monday #24
That may have been your intention...but... ms liberty Monday #44
Then there were those of us Oeditpus Rex 10 hrs ago #48
They help balance out the bad stuff! electric_blue68 Yesterday #47
Yes, we enjoy those threads. They help temper the horror of the tRump monstrous administration. Polly Hennessey Monday #26
At least for me - fun, laughter, beauty, wonderment, etc Are what Help me get away from, or wade through ... electric_blue68 5 hrs ago #60
M.A.S.H. lasted about 12 days Rigpa108 Monday #15
M*A*S*H was best for the first three seasons. Morbius Monday #16
They made it into Oeditpus Rex Monday #25
Don't forget how upbeat and peppy the shows music got in the last few years. Omnipresent Monday #28
We Are Polar Opposites On This ProfessorGAC 8 hrs ago #51
I think Frank Burns and TACO are the same guy yourout 7 hrs ago #54
Beauty! ProfessorGAC 7 hrs ago #55
Blake was much more a bufoon Oeditpus Rex 3 hrs ago #64
Hear, hear... appmanga 7 hrs ago #53
I watched it through all 11 seasons Oeditpus Rex 3 hrs ago #63
The movie was infinitely better than the TV series. (nt) Paladin Monday #21
Two years too early Tiny Tabby Monday #27
Nice catch! Oeditpus Rex Monday #33
Not at all unexpected given sdfernando Monday #34
Hot Lips father was a major continuity error. edbermac Monday #41
OMG! Blazing Saddles had a Gucci bag, and yet, Gucci wasn't founded until 1921! Ptah 9 hrs ago #49
Is that something Oeditpus Rex 5 hrs ago #58
Normally, Continuity Errors Bother Me ProfessorGAC 8 hrs ago #50
GET A LIFE Xoan 8 hrs ago #52
... Oeditpus Rex 5 hrs ago #59
I love MASH, have little criticism of it. Reccently I watched tbe ep "Adam's Rib" about Hawkeye trying to get these... electric_blue68 5 hrs ago #61

hlthe2b

(110,629 posts)
1. Good gawd... Compared to the crap sitcoms and what passes for comedy today?
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:10 PM
Sunday

Good grief... So, what if there were a few "continuity" mistakes that those needing a hobby dissect out 40 years later?

M*A*S*H at its worst is better than 90 plus % of what is available today--even on paid networks. YMMV, but I'd bet the majority will agree with me.

hlthe2b

(110,629 posts)
20. As has already been repeatedly said to you: "this was not a documentary..."
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 08:34 AM
Monday

Your comment is the standard for the latter.

hlthe2b

(110,629 posts)
29. ...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:07 PM
Monday

As you can see from the comments and recs, the majority of us still like and enjoy it.

Had you been sincere in wanting to talk about the lack of continuity in shows, you could have posted a thread about this among all comedies and dramas. But, instead all you wanted to do was make an issue of M*A*S*H. You didn't like it. We get it. Bye.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
32. ...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:32 PM
Monday


I'd just watched what I consider one of its worst episodes because it threw logic into the shredder. I didn't realize i was butchering anybody's sacred cow.

You want me to critiqué other sitcoms? I can do that. Pick one.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
37. This show lasted three times longer than the actual Korean war
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:46 PM
Monday

That makes continuity issues difficult

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,210 posts)
40. Really?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:58 PM
Monday

If you have a holiday episode each season for ten seasons, it is hard to keep continuity for a war that only lasted three years.

I loved Mash and the show did a great job given the fact that the series was three + time longer than the actual war.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
45. All you'd need
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 12:38 AM
Yesterday

is a continuity editor who keeps track of everything and reads each script to make sure, for example, Col. Potter isn't a Methodist when he first gets there and a Presbyterian about fìve seasons later.

Attilatheblond

(6,643 posts)
4. It lasted longer than that war.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:19 PM
Sunday

Agree, TV shows are not reality and back when that one was on, people knew the difference between real and TV shows.

boonecreek

(1,130 posts)
3. Continuity errors
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:17 PM
Sunday

were a hallmark of the Sheldon Leonard sitcoms.
Names changed, characters changed, etc.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
13. I can think of one
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:43 AM
Monday

In "The Dick Van Dyke Show," Laura had two maiden names: first Meeker, then Meehan.

boonecreek

(1,130 posts)
22. Then there was Rob's old army buddy,
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 09:02 AM
Monday

Sam Pomerantz or Sol Pomeroy first played by Henry Calvin who played Sgt. Garcia on Zorro,
then later by sitcom veteran Allan Melvin.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
35. Wasn't Marty Ingels
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 03:34 PM
Monday

originally Sol?

Seems like Allan Melvin was on half the sitxoms from the mid-'50s to the late '60s, and always as either a cop or a soldier. First, as far as I know, he was the cop whse beat included Danny Williams' (Danny Thomas) apartment building on "Make Room for Daddy." Then he was Cpl. Henshaw in "The Phil Silers Show" ("Sgt. Bilko&quot , and later Sgt. Hacker in "Gomer Pyle, USMC," in ddition to playing the aforementioned Sol (or Not Sol) in "The Dick Van Dyke Show." I'm almost certain he was a. one-ooff or ocasional character in other shows.

Oh -- he played the space sheriff in "Lost In Space" who was on the trail of Old West outlaw Zeno, who bore an uncanny resemblance to Dr. Smith in obe of that show's silliest episodes.

boonecreek

(1,130 posts)
42. You're right.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 05:18 PM
Monday

Looked it up on IMDb, the episode was "Sol and the Sponsor." He was also on "I'm Dickens He's Fenster" with John Astin
and this crazy movie called"Wild and Wonderful" with Tony Curtis, Christine Kaufman and a spoiled rotten poodle. IIRC, I
saw it on a double bill wth "Dr. Strangelove."

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
57. I guess his biggest claim to fame
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 08:29 PM
5 hrs ago

is being married to Shirley Jones.

I barely remember "I'm Dickens, He's Fenster." Must not have watched it much because I can't remember what it was about. Weren't they handymen or somethin'?

boonecreek

(1,130 posts)
62. They were carpenters.
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 09:31 PM
4 hrs ago

Basically, house builders. Their foreman was played by Frank DeVol who was primarily a
musician. If you see an old TV show where "Music by DeVol" is in the closing credits, that's him.
The episode I remember best was where Harry tells a joke and the job site splits into two armed
camps over whether to joke is funny or not.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
65. Hmm... kinda like the Lounge, that last thing
Wed Jul 16, 2025, 12:52 AM
1 hr ago

First tine I recall noticing DeVol was in the "Family Affair" closing credits. (I had a bit of a crush on Cissy )

Ilsa

(63,031 posts)
31. Big "but" here: They only wrote and taped three
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:23 PM
Monday

Christmas episodes. So, 251 episodes could hypothetically translate to an episode for every 4 or 5 days of the Korean Conflict?

Wounded Bear

(62,480 posts)
6. Given that the war only lasted for 3 years and the series ran 11...
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:20 PM
Sunday

I'm not surprised at some chronological inconsistancies.

The war started in Jun of 1950. By the spring of 1951 it had stabilized into trench warfare that lasted until the armistice in summer of 1953. The front lines moved a little, but nothing significant like WWII. The mountainous terrain lent itself to defense and static warfare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

M*A*S*H would have occurred in the later, non mobile part of the conflict. Thus the hospital camp never really moves much. Helps to keep production costs down. That gives a window of just over 2 years to contain the 11 seasons and 256 episodes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M*A*S*H_(TV_series)

Marie Marie

(10,320 posts)
9. Sorry, but as far as I am concerned, M*A*S*H* is one of the few shows that never jumped the shark.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:39 PM
Sunday

One of the best shows ever aired on TV. JMHO.

hunter

(39,639 posts)
11. The shows are clearly drawn from multiple parallel universes...
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:55 PM
Sunday

... with some small effort made to put them in a pseudo-chronological order.

niyad

(125,164 posts)
12. I am so happy for you that you have the time and energy for this. Most
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:18 AM
Monday

of us are too heartsick and exhausted to be able to care.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
14. Yeah, you're busy with important questions
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:48 AM
Monday

Like "What's your favorite breakfast cereal?"

True Dough

(23,651 posts)
56. It's not just the threads, deb
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 08:08 PM
6 hrs ago

It's the friendly nature of the people who start them. Some are naturals at it (like yourself) and others are just not very good at it (no names necessary).

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
24. This one was intended for just that purpose
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:15 PM
Monday

That should be obvious by the question at the end of the OP.

ms liberty

(10,382 posts)
44. That may have been your intention...but...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 07:07 PM
Monday

You picked on MASH, one of THE most sacred shows of the 20th century and the show that taught premium unmatched smart-assed repartee to a nation of ypung people.
(Finest kind!)

electric_blue68

(22,337 posts)
60. At least for me - fun, laughter, beauty, wonderment, etc Are what Help me get away from, or wade through ...
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 08:57 PM
5 hrs ago
the Awfulness of these current times in the USA, and elsewhere.

Otherwise I'd be cursing, and crying a whole lot more! Keeps my mental, and physical health at least better otherwise.

Rigpa108

(53 posts)
15. M.A.S.H. lasted about 12 days
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:57 AM
Monday

26 episodes per year at one hour per episode would be 26 hours, times 11 year run = 226 hours divided by 24 hours in a day = ~12 days. Counting reruns would double that to ~24 days.

Great show BTW.
And I tend to agree, never jumped the shark.

Morbius

(572 posts)
16. M*A*S*H was best for the first three seasons.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:50 AM
Monday

The show took a hit when Henry got killed. It was still good for several more years, and declined over time, especially in the last three seasons. Really, the prime was in the first four seasons before Larry Gelbart left.

Radar at the beginning was a cunning participant in whatever Hawkeye and BJ were up to; in the first season he would go into the Swamp and drink their moonshine. Then the show runners decided he needed to be naive and youthful, so he switched to grape Nehi and assumed an air of innocence. His character didn't grow; it changed based on the needs of the show.

Margaret was a joke until Loretta Swit negotiated a new contract, and she became a more sympathetic character. It's not like her character grew; her character changed. And so on.

Don't get me wrong; it's not like the show got terrible, not ever. But the end was a good deal less great than the beginning. It was a comedy and a good one; then they made it a dramedy and it was much less entertaining.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
25. They made it into
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:47 PM
Monday

the Alan Alda Virtue Signalling Show, but I don't think that was its downfall. That came with Radar's departure and Klinger's promotion to the main cast.

First, Radar wasn't a cohort of all the officers, but a comedic adjutant to them. Klinger, who was nothing but a clown from the beginning, became a member of the officers' club while contributing nothing but complains and bad puns. Then, this perennial bozo got promoted to sergeant. Unbelievable.

Meanwhile, Hawkeye and B.J. became overbearingy "punny" and Potter expanded his lexicon of "down-home" exlaations to absurdity. We also got too much of Sgt.Rizzo, one of the most inane, pointless characters in TV history.

Gary Burghoff's departure led to a chain reaction that showed how important hee was to the show.

ProfessorGAC

(73,557 posts)
51. We Are Polar Opposites On This
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 05:44 PM
8 hrs ago

I like none of the Blake episodes, except maybe(!) the last one, where he is going home.
I didn't care for Wayne Rogers & the Trapper character, either.
I like everything AFTER the point you prefer ended.
Maybe that's why the show lasted so long. There was a little something for everyone.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
64. Blake was much more a bufoon
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 11:05 PM
3 hrs ago

than a C.O., but at least he knew he wasn't much of the latter. He had a couple of moments, like when Hawkeye's old friend Tommy died (the one who was writing the book about the war) and Blake tried to console Hawkeye with the adage about doctors not being able to prevent young men from dying in war. But, mostly, he waps a clown.

That doesn't mean those episodes themselves were all bad, though. It's more that, for the most part, they were strictly comedy. ("Yankee Doodle Doctor" was great.)

I think the best seasons were the three after Col. Potter arrived. He was an excellent leader, yet quite human, and the writing seemed to be at its peak during that time.

appmanga

(1,206 posts)
53. Hear, hear...
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 06:22 PM
7 hrs ago

...those first three years were hilarious, and the show didn't take itself so seriously. It eventually got too preachy for me, and I stopped watching after season four.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
63. I watched it through all 11 seasons
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 10:25 PM
3 hrs ago

In the original run, though by about the eighth season, a lot of episodes were pretty eye-rolly. I never minded the "preachiness" too much, just the bad plots (I mean, a bowling tournament with a portable lane?Surgeons mixing and pouring concrete?*) and resulting sub-par writing nd directing.

*For that matter, why would they send their two best surgeons to diffuse an unexploded bomb instead of calling in EOD, or at least using a couple of enlisted men? And that was in the first season.

Tiny Tabby

(47 posts)
27. Two years too early
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:02 PM
Monday

Someone started singing the Mickey Mouse Club theme song to taunt another character. Mickey Mouse Club started in 1955, war ended in 1953.

sdfernando

(5,800 posts)
34. Not at all unexpected given
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 02:59 PM
Monday

the show ran for 11 seasons and the US was only involved in Korean War for 3 years.

edbermac

(16,217 posts)
41. Hot Lips father was a major continuity error.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 04:59 PM
Monday

In one early episode she tells Col Blake “Do you know that you look just like my father before he died?”. A few seasons later guess who shows up at the 4077?

Ptah

(33,820 posts)
49. OMG! Blazing Saddles had a Gucci bag, and yet, Gucci wasn't founded until 1921!
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 05:22 PM
9 hrs ago

Can you explain that?

Oeditpus Rex

(42,051 posts)
58. Is that something
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 08:36 PM
5 hrs ago

most people would know?

Besides, you're referring to a movie that was pure satire. M*A*S*H wasn't.

electric_blue68

(22,337 posts)
61. I love MASH, have little criticism of it. Reccently I watched tbe ep "Adam's Rib" about Hawkeye trying to get these...
Tue Jul 15, 2025, 09:05 PM
5 hrs ago

famous ribs he's had previously.

My favorite part is when he throws his food to the tent, jumps on the table, and starts chanting, "we want something else !", till he gets the whole lunch crowd chanting it. Does a little dance, too.
😄😄😄

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