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MissMillie

(39,372 posts)
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:28 AM Aug 16

My neighbor committed suicide early this morning

This was his second attempt w/i a month. After his first try, he was not living in the house, but apparently he arrived there in the wee hours and decided to stab himself in front of his wife and stepkids.

I had been wondering if he had been getting the help he needed.

This country seriously needs universal health care... including mental health coverage.

Mom and the adult kids were not let back into the house once the police arrived. I don't know where they are or if they even have clothes or a toothbrush, or what has happened to the 3 dogs... or how to be of help.

(We can't take their dogs, as our 3 dogs are not socialized.)

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My neighbor committed suicide early this morning (Original Post) MissMillie Aug 16 OP
My neighbor also committed suicide. no_hypocrisy Aug 16 #1
My neighbor was a good guy too MissMillie Aug 16 #3
I respected him -- and attended his funeral at his mosque. no_hypocrisy Aug 16 #4
I'm so sorry, MissMillie. Diamond_Dog Aug 16 #2
How sad 😞 so many people are suffering both mentally and financially. TommieMommy Aug 16 #5
Stresses today are staggering some_of_us_are_sane Aug 16 #6
"what is the single greatest reason for adult male suicide in america" Goonch Aug 16 #7
I'm so sorry, and don't negate the effect this may have on you. hamsterjill Aug 16 #8
Amen to this. soldierant Aug 16 #20
Tragic. Hope you're coping all right under trying circumstance, MissMillie. True Dough Aug 16 #9
Re taking care of yourself: the suicide hotlines also offer help and understanding for fierywoman Aug 16 #11
How horrible. You are so correct that we need universal healthcare for both physical and emotional/mental issues. Lonestarblue Aug 16 #10
That is horrible. So sorry for his family. 58Sunliner Aug 16 #12
I am so sorry, MissMillie. for the family and those who knew him. May his memories be a blessing to you. debm55 Aug 16 #13
And yet, another tragic story surrounding the LilElf70 Aug 16 #14
You have to have trust in society to seek mental health help in a crisis, and I personally don't. lostnfound Aug 16 #15
One of my cousins came back from service in S.E. Asia and took his own life, years ago. Paladin Aug 16 #16
"" AllaN01Bear Aug 16 #17
Happened To Us, Too ProfessorGAC Aug 16 #18
Another death attributable to the Apricot Antichrist, IMO soldierant Aug 16 #19
I'd never defend The Felon, but Oeditpus Rex Aug 16 #21
I'm sorry to hear that. area51 Monday #22

no_hypocrisy

(52,717 posts)
1. My neighbor also committed suicide.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:33 AM
Aug 16

We both lived on the second floor of a four-unit house.

I didn't even hear the gunshot as I was in the shower.

I learned about his death when the Police rang my unit.

It still makes no sense. He was a very nice guy.

MissMillie

(39,372 posts)
3. My neighbor was a good guy too
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:53 AM
Aug 16

Very obviously a hard-working guy, both on the job and in the home.

His wife commented to me--more than once--how he truly made every effort to make her and the kids happy.

no_hypocrisy

(52,717 posts)
4. I respected him -- and attended his funeral at his mosque.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:01 AM
Aug 16

Obviously, his family hid the truth behind his death in order to have a religious ceremony and to allow him to be buried in an Islamic cemetery.

TommieMommy

(2,295 posts)
5. How sad 😞 so many people are suffering both mentally and financially.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:36 AM
Aug 16

It's awful they decide that suicide is the only way. 🙏 My step brother committed suicide and nobody knew why. So awful 😞

some_of_us_are_sane

(1,788 posts)
6. Stresses today are staggering
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:39 AM
Aug 16

so sorry for his family and their dogs. (And YOU of course, MissMillie.)

We never know the extreme problems many are facing.

Goonch

(3,973 posts)
7. "what is the single greatest reason for adult male suicide in america"
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:49 AM
Aug 16

"Understanding the complex issue of male suicide in America
It's a misconception to attribute male suicide in America to a single "greatest reason". The tragic reality is that suicide is a complex issue driven by a combination of interconnected factors, rather than a single cause.
Here's a breakdown of the key factors involved:
1. Acute stressors

A UCLA study found that approximately 60% of male suicides were not primarily linked to diagnosed mental health conditions, but rather to sudden impulsive reactions to intense stressful situations.
Common acute stressors include relationship problems (breakups, divorce, arguments), legal difficulties, job loss, or other personal crises.

2. Access to lethal means

A significant contributing factor in male suicides, particularly in those without a known mental health history, is the use of firearms.
Firearms have a high fatality rate (around 83%) in suicide attempts, according to Big Think.

3. Untreated mental health conditions

Although a direct link isn't found in all cases, untreated mental health conditions, such as depression and anxiety, are recognized as major risk factors for suicide.
Men are often less likely to seek professional help for mental health issues due to societal expectations and stigma surrounding masculinity.
Men may also express depression differently (e.g., anger, irritability, risk-taking) than women, leading to misdiagnosis or overlooking of symptoms.

4. Substance abuse

There's a strong correlation between problematic substance use (alcohol and/or drugs) and suicidal behavior.
Men may turn to alcohol or drugs as a coping mechanism, which can worsen feelings of hopelessness and increase impulsivity.

5. Social and cultural factors

Societal expectations that encourage men to be strong and self-reliant, discouraging vulnerability and help-seeking, contribute to the issue.
Social isolation, particularly during life transitions (e.g., job changes, divorce) or in rural areas, can exacerbate feelings of loneliness and despair.
Economic factors, including unemployment and financial strain, also play a role, particularly in middle-aged men.

In conclusion
While there's no single reason, it's clear that acute stressful situations, often involving relationship issues, legal problems, or job loss, combined with easier access to firearms are significant contributing factors to the tragic rate of male suicide in America.
Addressing this complex issue requires a multi-pronged approach that focuses on mitigating acute stressors, promoting responsible firearm ownership, encouraging help-seeking behavior in men, and challenging harmful societal norms that discourage emotional expression and vulnerability.

If you or someone you know is in crisis, please seek immediate help. You can contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 or visit Psychiatry.org for resources. "

hamsterjill

(16,372 posts)
8. I'm so sorry, and don't negate the effect this may have on you.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 10:04 AM
Aug 16

I've been close to two suicides and the shock and grief can take a while to truly set in. I'm sure you want to help your neighbors any way that you can, but you also need to give yourself some grace and time to process this, as well.

Sending hopes that the Mom and adult kids get the help they need. Hopefully they will make arrangements for the doggies. Pets can provide an immeasurable amount of comfort in situations like this.

True Dough

(24,040 posts)
9. Tragic. Hope you're coping all right under trying circumstance, MissMillie.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 10:31 AM
Aug 16

The accelerated transfer of wealth under the current "administration" can only be exacerbating feelings of hopelessness. Not saying that was the motivating factor for your neighbor, but it would be one of the prominent stressors for many families trying to scrape by.

fierywoman

(8,407 posts)
11. Re taking care of yourself: the suicide hotlines also offer help and understanding for
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:05 AM
Aug 16

people around suicide.

Lonestarblue

(12,905 posts)
10. How horrible. You are so correct that we need universal healthcare for both physical and emotional/mental issues.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 10:48 AM
Aug 16

People are so fed up with companies like United Healthcare that I think Democrats could run successfully on this issue, especially by describing it as a transition allowing those with employer-sponsored plans to continue them. I’m convinced that eliminating Medicaid and incorporating its recipients into Medicare would eliminate a lot of administrative costs for both states and the federal government. Medicare is not free, and it already has different premiums for higher income folks. That policy could continue with graduated rates for poor. Fighting the for-profit medical insurance companies to enact such a program will be the challenge.

debm55

(50,163 posts)
13. I am so sorry, MissMillie. for the family and those who knew him. May his memories be a blessing to you.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:30 AM
Aug 16

LilElf70

(1,036 posts)
14. And yet, another tragic story surrounding the
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 11:37 AM
Aug 16

lack of healthcare coverage for all in this country. How many more lives will we lose because of this situation in American Healthcare?

The Republicons won't do shit to get us where we really need to be regarding healthcare. The Democrats are leaning that way, but not fully committed to go all the way. Why, I'll never know.

Since the Democrats, or a third party, are the only ones that will get us to the goal line, I suggest we make social changes and put our money in one basket, or the other....... Ya know......GO ALL IN. I personally prefer the Dems to do this.

IMO, the Dems policies need to be more progressive and get more buy in. We have to start helping people, not destroying them. We have a lot of people to convince that going further left will save the country, and our democracy. How we do this I do not know. So many have tried and failed. And yet status quo will never win again. Real change is REQUIRED. And it needs to start NOW.

We've now seen what the right wants to do. The first 6 months have been horrendous, with 3.5 years more to go. Maybe more, if he gets his way.

I wish I knew a steadfast way to fix this issue.

lostnfound

(17,146 posts)
15. You have to have trust in society to seek mental health help in a crisis, and I personally don't.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:36 PM
Aug 16

The treatment of people seeking help in this society includes cops who shoot first and ask questions later, strip searches, forced drugs, forced incarceration, fraud, and sexual abuse of teenagers.
No way.
I’ve seen a man teetering on a median of a busy intersection, looked at a family member in the car, and mutually agreed that he was better off taking his chances with traffic than taking chances by calling the police..
I’ve read articles about teen girls in Texas being given a cocktail of psychoactive drugs for a couple of years, intended to keep them passive and easily controlled, when there was really nothing wrong that required drugs at all. Routinely drugging immigrant children at Shiloh center outside of Houston. What in any of this inspires trust??

For-profit institutions want to keep people inside as long as possible.

Mental health apps are selling the data.

Teenagers aren’t “allowed to have a bad day”. More than 100,000 are being given two or more psychotropic drugs. Poor girl in this story was given 6, and felt like she was ‘crawling out of her skin’.


Paladin

(31,410 posts)
16. One of my cousins came back from service in S.E. Asia and took his own life, years ago.
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 12:51 PM
Aug 16

I'll never forget the split feelings I had, as a result---half of me in mourning over losing a relative I was close to for years; the other half of me absolutely furious with him, for what he did to my family.

ProfessorGAC

(74,069 posts)
18. Happened To Us, Too
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 03:36 PM
Aug 16

This was a while ago (at least 15 years ago) but our neighbor killed himself.
No spouse, no kids. I don't think he had hit 30 years old yet.

soldierant

(8,847 posts)
19. Another death attributable to the Apricot Antichrist, IMO
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 08:36 PM
Aug 16

Whether the poor man's finances were actually destroyed by his policies, or whether it was more fear that they would be, I'm betting this was a factor. And he is not making mental health care any easier, either, and lack of care was almost certainly a factor.

Oeditpus Rex

(42,392 posts)
21. I'd never defend The Felon, but
Sat Aug 16, 2025, 09:30 PM
Aug 16

there's no possible way you could know enough about the deceased to even guess at any of that. Suicide is complicated, and it's self-indulgent folly to blame one on your political enemies.

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