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I have never understood this band's popularity. This week they're a hot topic. Anybody want to share what is considered the best of Oasis?

marble falls
(67,974 posts)highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)marble falls
(67,974 posts)... I'm just not one of them. We'll just put it down to my tin ear!
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)a lack of time and being turned off by their sibling rivalry and arrogance, and I regret that now.
Btw, as far as I've been able to learn, they never "beat each other up on stage" as you said above. Only onstage disagreement that turned violent was the Whiskey A Go Go show in 1994, before which they'd been given powdered crystal meth and told it was cocaine. They were all fucked up, but lead guitarist and older brother Noel was the most messed up. Liam was singing quite well at the start of the gig, but Noel couldn't keep track of what song they were doing and was playing so loudly, and singing loudly and apparently deliberately off-key, apparently trying to drown Liam out, that Liam finally told him to fuck off and hit him on the head with his tambourine. I haven't seen film of that, don't know if it was just an irritated light bop on the head after Noel had been deliberately aggravating for several songs, with the band and Noel especially sheer chaos while Liam tried to sing and even had them redo the first song to try to get everyone on track. I wouldn't have advised hitting Noel with a tambourine (a light enough hit they just continued with the concert), but after seeing video of what Noel was doing, I think a giant hook to yank him off the stage would have been perfectly appropriate. After that gig Noel took off for San Francisco and talked about quitting the band. But they'd all been completely messed up that night, and Noel had been the worst. Whatever drug they'd been given, they didn't sleep for days.
They were brothers only 5 years apart in age, had grown up sharing a room and fighting, and had an alcoholic, abusive father who would beat them and sometimes beat Noel unconscious. And a mother who really should have left their father earlier, but hesitated because of the Catholic Church. (My mother and two of her sisters stayed too long in bad marriages for the same reason, so I know how that goes. I've never forgiven the priest in St. Paul who took one look at the house and Lincoln Continental and told my mom not to leave my dad, but to get him to start tithing.)
Anyway, the more I learned about the Gallagher brothers, the more their behavior seemed understandable. And once I really listened to their music...
I'm glad they patched things up after 15 years apart. My own brothers still refuse to have anything to do with each other most of the time. They're 4 years apart in age.
marble falls
(67,974 posts)... At the same time, I love the Beatles. Go figure.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)best songs are can get incredible variations from people who all love that artist. How often do you run across an article listing so-and-so's 10 best songs and think they must be crazy or deaf?
marble falls
(67,974 posts)highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)The podcast I posted last night mentioned their influences being rock from 1965 through 1975, which is my favorite era for rock. Noel borrowed a lot from that era, but even when it was as obvious as the influence from T.Rex and Bang A Gong - one of my favorite songs for decades - he did something great with it. Like their song Cigarettes & Alcohol, which at the moment I prefer to Bang A Gong.
This is from Knebworth 1996, and has the sibling rivalry and Liam's weirdness before they have that crowd of 125,000 rocking...as they have stadiums rocking now.
The first night of this tour, July 4:
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,266 posts)The music of theirs that I've heard is just bland and indistinguishable from most other 90s bands.
The only song I found that would make me want to hear more is this Wonderwall
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)bothered to try to make any decisions about that. It's always seemed a bit bland to me.
I've noticed that journalists/critics differ a lot on what they consider the band's best songs. (The same is true for fans, of course.) Out of curiosity, I looked at a lot of magazine and newspaper lists of their best songs last night, and despite how successful Wonderwall was, there seemed to be as many lists leaving it out of the top 10 as including it, and it didn't always make the top 20.
We all have different taste, and IMO those journalists having very different favorites - picking so many different Oasis songs they consider the band's ten best - helps explain their wide appeal.
I'd posted those two concert videos of Cigarettes & Alcohol mainly to show the crowd response, 29 years ago and now.
I posted my favorite 10 Oasis songs earlier, in another reply to you.
Eko
(9,640 posts)highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)rave reviews, and a podcast about them even from John Heilemann. Something important's going on, which is why I've been posting so much about them.
Eko
(9,640 posts)Taylor Swift gets rave reviews and I don't like her music. I certainly don't hate it but I don't like it so rave reviews don't mean much to me.
hlthe2b
(111,198 posts)"delight" of certain Gen X and Millennials? I am not sure they appeal to many Gen-Z, but I certainly don't know.
They are an English band, and while their current tour is getting lots of attention, the only new item I could see discussed is the release fairly recently of another album--one which marks the first time a band has used AI vocals. The latter incenses me if true (and I assume it is as it appears on their Wikipedia page.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)AI than I have?
Yes, this paragraph about something done without permission was on their Wikipedia page:
Liam always thinks he sounds mega, apparently even when copied by AI.
Noel Gallagher, Liam's older brother, had a very different take on it.
https://www.nme.com/news/music/noel-gallagher-responds-to-the-ai-generated-lost-oasis-album-3451406
These fucking idiots have clearly got too much time on their hands
By
Ali Shutler
4th June 2023
-snip-
These fucking idiots have clearly got too much time on their hands and too much money that they can afford the technology to fucking piss around doing that for a laugh, said Noel before revealing that he was saving up for the technology myself.
Then Im just gonna dial it in to some computer and fucking churn it out when Im 73. Ill have 140 albums to go after Im fucking dead to keep my kids in choc ices and fucking weed.
Noel added: People kept sending me stuff like Ringo Starr singing Shes Electric. Theres not enough hours in the day. Do we need Freddie Mercury singing Dont Look Back In Anger? Does anybody give a shit? People are like, Yeah, but its interesting, isnt it? Who the fuck is it interesting to?
Responding to the idea that AI has doomed us all, Noel said: Well you are Im not. Fucking hell. Oasis: The Lost Tapes. Really? Is that what you think it sounds like? You can AI the singers voice and his tambourine playing. Afraid you cant AI what I do. As soon as you fucking can, Im done, Im finished, Im retiring Ill just stick it into a fucking algorithm.
Noel makes a lot of funny sarcastic remarks. He's not saving up to buy the tech. They've sold 200 million album, and he wrote most of the songs on them, has all those royalties.
See this DU thread I posted on a Hollywood Reporter article on why Oasis is the antithesis of AI:
https://democraticunderground.com/1034150760
hlthe2b
(111,198 posts)states it. That which YOU posted:
If this is the antithesis of AI, well... I'll take those who fight against it.
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highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)that his AI voice sounded mega. That was not approval of the album, and I should have pointed that out.
There has been no approval of the AI album from the band.
There is AI slop all over YouTube. I'm not aware of any artist who's succeeded in getting everything copying their voice removed. Especially when some misguided fans are doing it.
Noel made his opinion clear, and he runs the band. Younger brother Liam is known for saying whatever pops into his head, and he was apparently surprised by how much an AI voice could sound like him.
And btw, Oasis didn't reunite until a year or so after that group of Oasis fans did that album.
The Wikipedia paragraph misrepresents what happened.
hlthe2b
(111,198 posts)including videos and song lists that can help those "discover" or "rediscover" this band.
I have major issues with AI and its decimation of creativity. If Wiki got it wrong, they should correct it.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)very successful solo careers in the meantime. Hit albums and singles, sold-out concerts. Including Liam selling out consecutive nights at Knebworth.
But their work together was missed.
And I do expect this tour to bring a resurgence in guitar rock, which we really need now.
So do I. You have no idea how much.
They should. I'm already posting on 4 platforms, though, and don't want to add Wikipedia. I correct misunderstandings when I run across them someplace where I can correct them easily. I have no idea how Wikipedia works.
IMO that entire paragraph about fans having used an AI simulation of Liam's voice should be removed. That is NOT part of the band's legacy, as the section that paragraph is in suggests. If they added paragraphs about fans doing AI copies to every artist subjected to that, you'd have to edit a large fraction of artist pages on Wikipedia.Plus they exaggerated what Liam said and left out what Noel said.
hlthe2b
(111,198 posts)I appreciate your efforts. On the AI score, I know that Rick Beato is getting really singled out right now by the POWER guys (UMG) re: copyright vs fair use, but he has really nailed the issues...
I will give Oasis a new "listen"-promise.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)I agree with you re Rick Beato being targeted unfairly.
Btw, Rick interviewed Noel Gallagher of Oasis a few days ago, posted about it on Instagram - then quickly took that post down. I'm guessing they didn't want him boasting about the interview, at least not yet, when they'd said they wouldn't be doing any interviews on this tour. Noel did call in to his favorite sports talk show in the UK to talk about how happy he is with the tour and how proud he is of Liam. But that probably didn't lead to a tsunami of requests for interviews like what they must've gotten after Rick Beato posted.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)and I've been posting about them since the first concert and first rave reviews on July 4.
https://democraticunderground.com/1034147511
I think the oldest of the threads I've posted on Oasis are about 20 pages back. There are a lot of them - all worth reading if you want to understand why they're so popular. Beside posting their music including a lot of video from the concerts, I've posted documentaries, interviews and articles.
And lots and lots of the rave reviews they're getting.
They're a great band. I didn't give enough attention to them in the '90s. Apparently neither did most of the people here.
There's one documentary especially that you should watch to understand their success:
https://democraticunderground.com/1034149416
As for their best music - this would be my top 10, if I had to narrow it down:
Champagne Supernova
Don't Look Back In Anger
Cigarettes & Alcohol
Live Forever
Rock 'n' Roll Star
Slide Away
The Hindu Times
Supersonic
Acquiesce
Stand By Me
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,266 posts)My bad.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)my attention first because as of yesterday they'd been getting tons of media attention and rave reviews for just over two months (the tour started July 4). They weren't merely this week's hot topic. LOL. So I responded to that instead of what's considered the best of Oasis, which people will disagree on. Though anyone just wanting an introduction to a lot of their best songs could start with the setlist for the reunion tour, which you can find here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oasis_Live_%2725_Tour
and in lots of reviews.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)which does show up fairly often on lists of their 20 best.
And as I mentioned in the thread I posted about the song
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1034149968
it's Johnny Marr's very favorite Oasis song. He played a role in their early success, but it was this song from 2002's Heathen Chemistry that became his favorite.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/jul/04/they-made-me-feel-i-could-do-something-with-my-life-indie-music-legends-pick-their-favourite-oasis-songs
It may come as a surprise to people that Ive chosen this song, but I think its a great example of Oasis doing the thing they do so well. Even though the chorus hook is And I get so high I just cant feel it a classic Oasis line that only Noel could come up with and Liam could pull off the melodic hook that makes it so definitive is the bit that follows: In and out my brain / Running through my vein / Youre my sunshine, youre my rain. A post-chorus chorus is something that Noel does often and Ive never heard in other peoples songs. When they recorded The Hindu Times in Olympic Studios, I told Noel it was really good and he kind of shrugged. The next thing, it was No 1. At about the same time I watched from the side of the stage as they played it at the Manchester Apollo. I couldnt work out if what I was seeing was a band totally at one with their audience or so elevated that they were on another plane. It was both, and I thought to myself, This is what rocknroll means.
BootinUp
(50,302 posts)If I survive Trump.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)all ages enjoying themselves.
I've been finding their music and all the concert news a perfect break from Trump, even if for only a few minutes at a time.
BootinUp
(50,302 posts)highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)BootinUp
(50,302 posts)it could be that I avoid what is currently popular, (unless I discovered it first!)
ProfessorGAC
(74,227 posts)I admit being late to REM. They didn't do much for me, despite the hits. It was years later that, listening a little more carefully, I decided they were actually very interesting. The way the instruments played off each other was much more involved than I thought.
Also, I got fooled by the Nickelback flogging. When I finally ignore that & listened, I found those were some really good songs, executed superbly.
Oasis was that way for me, but I recognized them well before now. But, they were already nearing their end when I realized they were good.
highplainsdem
(58,019 posts)a while as if there was another trip to the ER almost every week. I used to joke that I could find my way around the nearest hospital blindfolded, since I'd spent so many hours there, a lot of that time wandering around the hospital in the wee hours. In retrospect I probably could've listened to music then, but I wouldn't've been able to focus on it. And at home there really wasn't a good time for listening to music during the day, because I had to be able to hear if there was an emergency. I'd often be awake hours after she was asleep, so I'd sometimes catch up on music including new music then, but there was also writing/email to take care of, and I'd stop listening to music at times, take the headphones off, to make sure there wasn't any sort of emergency. So I wasn't going to pay much attention to a very brash young UK band with two squabbling brothers. Then by 1996, even with Oasis having done those triumphant concerts at Knebworth, I was interested in a different young British band, because of a friend, and hoping they might become more successful than Oasis (nope).
Even if we can spend a lot of time focused on music, it's impossible to keep up with all of it.