*UPDATE, EUREKA post #7* - (original headline here: ) Low-tech-me's latest hard-knock lesson: USB-A /USB-A a no-no!
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So, been digging up stuff to get rid of, found a few things from years ago - ex-phone, little short wave radio, emergency little radio, digital little camera - all of which in junk box forgotten for years. Am usually a pack rat for device *manuals* all highlighted and laminated, but this recent trove manual-less and the use knowledge therefore lost, although now almost everything is on the internet.
Some of these items use batteries, maybe with options for charging. This is about the emergency radio - options for cranking, solar, and yes cable charging. It has a USB A slot, and a mini-something slot. Decided to need a double ended A and A cable to fit into the plug and the radio. First stop retail that had only all A to C things and was told that they had never seen A to A. Next place, the first couple of young sales kids didn't even direct to the cables section and kept scrolling their phones to find out whether there was whatever in the store. So another sales kid suddenly appeared and took me over to the cables section and found an A-A, with an included coupler to C, fine.
So the knock. Got home almost elated that I found what I thought I needed, proceeded to put it in motion. Guess what, no sign of life, totally dead reaction, no little lights or beeps or whatever. The box and instructions said this was for "transferring data" (not charging?) between computers and that something (software?) needed to be downloaded to the computers. I was not using this for computers, and uninformedly assumed a connection is a connection and had no way to "download" on the charging task I was attempting. So the only way to test for some life in the cable was to try a different device - my phone, which is C and proceeded to use a coupler A to C.
Yes, life was happening, but instead of charging the phone, the battery started going down, the opposite way. Then horror - a *DANGER* message on the phone, something about an existential threat to the phone. Disconnected tout suite! Then in panic ran a phone diagnostics thing, that seemed to have O.K. results. But still anxiety about whether damage had happened. Left the phone overnight without new charging to see whether the battery would be worse in numbers in the morning. Morning, the number was the same, so O.K.?
*** So after this, did some of the googling research that should have been done before. Found out that double-A cables, when connected to devices, have some nefarious results of internal something or other, currents going back on themselves or something. So into the trash for my purchase. I'm sure the wizzes here will be able to fill out the vast knowledge gap.
The other research for my weather radio was that the A slot on it is "audio output" - no idea what that means, that an "output" will be to hear it with an "output" cable without charging? AND, that the mini-USB slot could be for charging? In my junk box of cables, there WAS a mini cable and it WORKED for life and charging!
NO-NO! :

canetoad
(19,603 posts)To see it. I'm glad your phone was not damaged, but I understand. You gotta try stuff out! Hope you never stop.
UTUSN
(75,954 posts)the recipient sent a Reply that didn't open here and came in separately without contentl They got my message and answered but their answer didn't register open here, got a separate thing that they sent something. Just did another hassle diagnostics and got no problems, but who knows.
Oh, I don't stop, but who knows at what damage!
usonian
(21,242 posts)SOME devices use USB for audio. Think "usb turntable" with built-in DAC.
Rare, though.
I found a nighttime noise maker with a very short usb-usb cable. How to extend? A usb extender changes gender.
So, an old disk drive cable (type B? ) had two male connectors. One for data and one for extra power (old drives were power hogs)

It works. Go figure.
Never throw anything out. You'll need it tomorrow.
I could probably use your cable.
UTUSN
(75,954 posts)Kali
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when people start mentioning volts and amps and current my eyes instantly glaze over.
UTUSN
(75,954 posts)So, before, ringtone notification sounded for all new messages, now doesn't but sometimes for other things. Have done my version of due diligence - checked the settings for the different apps: The carrier, Google mail, phone and the Sound is On on all of them. Found on a Community post for the phone tha Power Saving should be Off, did that. Sent myself mail to check for notification and got none. A comment in Community said they had missed/delayed arrivals for lack of notification. The notification rings on the linked tablet, not the phone.
Worse problem was error message on phone Message saying to try again later. It went through a few minutes later but when the recipient answered , their message came in separately, not in my Mwssage place and it was an error pop, not text answer, and no notification. They Mail it sent myself went through but without notification. Notification for WhatsApp works.
Talking about the phone notifications only.
UTUSN
(75,954 posts)Maybe the above about the double A-A caused the problem, flipping buttons? But in the end, after two days of malfunctioning Samsung Galaxy Messages app (no service for Outgoing and unable to open Reply/Attachment, plus no ringtone notification. But Message to out-of-state contact worked normally, while Messages to MULTI-addresses *NO* ("no service" ), and went nuts with all the menus and options.
*** So the Tech CHAT session today of an hour or two was a total waste, as so many times before, where they put you through all routines of basic connections and step by step where you know it's going NOWHERE and will end up THE SAME!
However, with Google found *something* (else, different) like to Clear Cache of lots of things, apps one-by-one and whole System cache - all useful but not to the point for the problem.
*** The EUREKA! - where, well at the "happy" hour, where there are all sorts of answers from professionals in all fields. So this person knew *EXACTLY* what the answer was: That Mobile Data should be ON and Wife Wifi Calling OFF, and VOILA, all the test messages sent over the past two days that had "no service" immediately got Sent *NOW* and some poor recipients going "Whaa" over old messages from yesterday, yet able and willing to answer!
************** Funny aside, "wifi" not "wife"!!!!!!!!!!!!!