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citizen blues

(580 posts) Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:07 PM Jul 2016

Recognizing a dying GOP . . .

Even within the party, it's being recognized that the chickens are coming home to roost.

A Republican intellectual explains why the Republican Party is going to die

CLEVELAND — Avik Roy is a Republican’s Republican. A health care wonk and editor at Forbes, he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio. Much of his adult life has been dedicated to advancing the Republican Party and conservative ideals.

But when I caught up with Roy at a bar just outside the Republican convention, he said something I’ve never heard from an establishment conservative before: The Grand Old Party is going to die.

“I don’t think the Republican Party and the conservative movement are capable of reforming themselves in an incremental and gradual way,” he said. “There’s going to be a disruption.”

Roy isn’t happy about this: He believes it means the Democrats will dominate national American politics for some time. But he also believes the Republican Party has lost its right to govern, because it is driven by white nationalism rather than a true commitment to equality for all Americans.

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Recognizing a dying GOP . . . (Original Post) citizen blues Jul 2016 OP

They're always the last to know BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #1

The dinosaurs had no clue either before their extinction. eom guillaumeb Jul 2016 #2

I thought they got the email from WikiLeaks. Koinos Jul 2016 #5

IOW, they made deals with devils in order to grab power Warpy Jul 2016 #3

Well they have not offered anything new in over 30 years. Yet the country con't to change. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #4

Is suicide a natural cause? Koinos Jul 2016 #6

Well we see their actions as political suicidal. They obviously don't. DT sure doesn't. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #7

Is accidental suicide a thing? Is it covered by insurance? Koinos Jul 2016 #8

The so called leadership of the GOP have known exactly what they have done and are doing. MichiganVote Jul 2016 #9

BeyondGeography

(39,822 posts)

1. They're always the last to know

Reply to citizen blues (Original post)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:18 PM

Jul 2016

Nixon's southern strategy; welfare queen myth pusher St. Reagan kicked off his 1980 presidential campaign at the Neshoba County Fair; Lee Atwater/Willie Horton...

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)

2. The dinosaurs had no clue either before their extinction. eom

Reply to citizen blues (Original post)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:25 PM

Jul 2016

Koinos

(2,796 posts)

5. I thought they got the email from WikiLeaks.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:15 PM

Jul 2016

Warpy

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3. IOW, they made deals with devils in order to grab power

Reply to citizen blues (Original post)

Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:39 PM

Jul 2016

and now the devils have taken over. It was the same story with the Federalists and the Whigs.

The Republicans will sputter on for decades as a regional party, especially in the south and parts of the west, but stick a fork in them, their policies have been tried and have failed and they have no other ideas. They're done, even without all the devils.

What remains to be seen is what will take their place. Likely a whole collection of splinter parties will absorb the devils for a while, but eventually a new Hamiltonian party will form, probably on the ashes of one of the progressive splinter parties after their one or two major issues are dealt with. This is how it has happened in the past.