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mahatmakanejeeves

(66,373 posts)
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 05:59 AM Aug 4

Trump Fired America's Economic Data Collector. History Shows the Perils.


President Trump said he ousted the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because the numbers produced by her agency were “rigged” to hurt him politically. Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times

Trump Fired America’s Economic Data Collector. History Shows the Perils.

Economists say unbiased data is essential for policymaking, and for democracy.

By Ben Casselman
Aug. 3, 2025

When President Trump didn’t like the weak jobs numbers that were released on Friday, he fired the person responsible for producing them. … It was a move with few precedents in the century-long history of economic statistics in the United States. And for good reason: When political leaders meddle in government data, it rarely ends well.

There is the case of Greece, where the government faked deficit numbers for years, contributing to a debilitating debt crisis that required multiple rounds of bailouts. The country then criminally prosecuted the head of the statistical agency when he insisted on reporting the true figures, further eroding the country’s international standing. … There is the case of China, where earlier this century the local authorities manipulated data to hit growth targets mandated by Beijing, forcing analysts and policymakers to turn to alternative measures to gauge the state of the country’s economy.

Perhaps most famously, there is the case of Argentina, which in the 2000s and 2010s systematically understated inflation figures to such a degree that the international community eventually stopped relying on the government’s data. That loss of faith drove up the country’s borrowing costs, worsening a debt crisis that ultimately led to it defaulting on its international obligations.

It is too soon to know whether the United States is on a similar path. But economists and other experts said that Mr. Trump’s decision on Friday to fire Erika McEntarfer, the Senate-confirmed head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, was a troubling step in that direction. … Janet L. Yellen, the former Treasury secretary and chair of the Federal Reserve, said the firing was not what is expected from the most advanced economy in the world. … “This is the kind of thing you would only expect to see in a banana republic,” Ms. Yellen said.

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Ben Casselman is the chief economics correspondent for The Times. He has reported on the economy for nearly 20 years.

A version of this article appears in print on Aug. 4, 2025, Section B, Page 1 of the New York edition with the headline: Trump’s Bid To Tilt Data Carries Perils. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
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Trump Fired America's Economic Data Collector. History Shows the Perils. (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 4 OP
"Accurate numbers are essential for policy making" Walleye Aug 4 #1
It's just hildegaard28 Aug 4 #2
Previous Republican administrations have dealt with discouraging numbers. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 4 #3
I think it's hildegaard28 Aug 4 #4
Who benefits and how from false economic data? Irish_Dem Aug 4 #5
Like golf, improve his lie. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 4 #6
Why? What is the end goal. Irish_Dem Aug 4 #7
To prove that he can. mahatmakanejeeves Aug 4 #8
In reality, nobody benefits from false economic data Wiz Imp Aug 4 #9
Trump does nothing unless it benefits himself. Irish_Dem Aug 4 #11
He thinks it helps him by making him look better. But he's too stupid to realize that it actually makes him look worse Wiz Imp Aug 4 #12
Doctoring public records is a criminal offense Gum Logger Aug 4 #10

Walleye

(42,021 posts)
1. "Accurate numbers are essential for policy making"
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 06:06 AM
Aug 4

Trump isn’t making policy. He’s throwing temper tantrums.

hildegaard28

(727 posts)
2. It's just
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 06:10 AM
Aug 4

Another symptom of the Republican Party’s inability to cope with reality. It seems they genuinely believe that we create our own realities. Such magical thinking.

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,373 posts)
3. Previous Republican administrations have dealt with discouraging numbers.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 06:12 AM
Aug 4

There’s something different about this one.

And good morning.

hildegaard28

(727 posts)
4. I think it's
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 06:16 AM
Aug 4

Been building to this. Republicans have been in denial of reality for a long time. See their response to climate change and tax cuts. Trump’s just the first to take it to this extreme.

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,373 posts)
8. To prove that he can.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 06:40 AM
Aug 4

Seriously.

I came from an … unusual … family. I’ve seen this all before. This is what they do. Inflicting their cruelty on other people is what they live for.

Wiz Imp

(6,646 posts)
9. In reality, nobody benefits from false economic data
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 09:41 AM
Aug 4

Accurate data is absolutely necessary to make all kinds of business decisions that impact the economy. If you use fake data, then those decisions will unavoidably be faulty, running the risk of killing the economy as a result. Likewise, if the only data available is faulty, economists and other decision makers are smart enough to see that and will not use the data in their decision making process. But if no alternative is available, these folks are left with substituting their own "best guess" as to what is really happening, running the same risks as using fake data.

Most people wouldn't understand it, but not having accurate economic statistics available would have a significant negative impact on everybody's lives.

Irish_Dem

(73,296 posts)
11. Trump does nothing unless it benefits himself.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 11:29 AM
Aug 4

So it benefits Trump and his minders in some way.

Wiz Imp

(6,646 posts)
12. He thinks it helps him by making him look better. But he's too stupid to realize that it actually makes him look worse
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 11:38 AM
Aug 4
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