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hatrack

(64,978 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 06:48 AM 10 hrs ago

Study: "Almost Certain" Collapse Of Atlantic Conveyer By 2100, And This Model Excludes Greenland Ice Loss

The critical Atlantic current system appears significantly more likely to collapse than previously thought after new research found that climate models predicting the biggest slowdown are the most realistic. Scientists called the new finding “very concerning” as a collapse would have catastrophic consequences for Europe, Africa and the Americas. The Atlantic meridional overturning circulation (Amoc) is a major part of the global climate system and was already known to be at its weakest for 1,600 years as a result of the climate crisis. Scientists spotted warning signs of a tipping point in 2021 and know that the Amoc has collapsed in the Earth’s past.

Climate scientists use dozens of different computer models to assess the future climate. However, for the complex Amoc system, these produce widely varying results, ranging from some that indicate no further slowdown by 2100 to those suggesting a huge deceleration of about 65%, even when carbon emissions from fossil fuel burning are gradually cut to net zero. The research combined real-world ocean observations with the models to determine the most reliable, and this hugely reduced the spread of uncertainty. They found an estimated slowdown of 42% to 58% in 2100, a level almost certain to end in collapse.

The Amoc is a major part of the global climate system and brings sun-warmed tropical water to Europe and the Arctic, where it cools and sinks to form a deep return current. A collapse would shift the tropical rainfall belt on which many millions of people rely to grow their food, plunge western Europe into extreme cold winters and summer droughts, and add 50-100cm to already rising sea levels around the Atlantic.

Dr Valentin Portmann, at the Inria Centre de recherche Bordeaux Sud-Ouest in France and who led the new research, said: “We found that the Amoc is going to decline more than expected compared to the average of all climate models. This means we have an Amoc that is closer to a tipping point.” Prof Stefan Rahmstorf, at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany, said: “This is an important and very concerning result. It shows that the ‘pessimistic’ models, which show a strong weakening of the Amoc by 2100, are, unfortunately, the realistic ones, in that they agree better with observational data.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/apr/15/critical-atlantic-current-significantly-more-likely-to-collapse-than-thought

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Study: "Almost Certain" Collapse Of Atlantic Conveyer By 2100, And This Model Excludes Greenland Ice Loss (Original Post) hatrack 10 hrs ago OP
When that conveyor stops working EYESORE 9001 9 hrs ago #1
Well, we were aware of the damage we were causing decades ago. OldBaldy1701E 8 hrs ago #2
Well, that was thoroughly frightening. littlemissmartypants 8 hrs ago #3
Yes it is. I saw a documentary about this many years ago Phoenix61 7 hrs ago #7
What is the documentary? I'd like to see it. littlemissmartypants 7 hrs ago #9
I wish I could remember. I know it was on PBS. Maybe a NOVA production? nt Phoenix61 7 hrs ago #11
Yep, but the stock market is at record highs. multigraincracker 7 hrs ago #4
1% thoughts on it: And the people that matter all have underground family bunkers. So it won't affect anyone? LiberalArkie 7 hrs ago #8
Clearly the only solution is massive deregulatiom Orrex 7 hrs ago #5
Wally Broecker warned about this at least 40 years ago dedl67 7 hrs ago #6
April 22, 1970 was the first Earth Day. We've been damned irresponsible for a while. littlemissmartypants 7 hrs ago #10

EYESORE 9001

(29,797 posts)
1. When that conveyor stops working
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 07:38 AM
9 hrs ago

The only means of heat dissipation becomes storms - ones requiring new categories of severity.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,267 posts)
2. Well, we were aware of the damage we were causing decades ago.
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 08:27 AM
8 hrs ago

And, we decided that we knew better. That we were more than nature. That we could control her.

Shame when reality comes a knockin', isn't it?

Phoenix61

(18,850 posts)
7. Yes it is. I saw a documentary about this many years ago
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:19 AM
7 hrs ago

and the results of it stopping are catastrophic.

LiberalArkie

(19,857 posts)
8. 1% thoughts on it: And the people that matter all have underground family bunkers. So it won't affect anyone?
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:24 AM
7 hrs ago

Orrex

(67,206 posts)
5. Clearly the only solution is massive deregulatiom
Thu Apr 16, 2026, 09:02 AM
7 hrs ago

coupled with huge, permanent tax cuts for billionaires

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