Environment & Energy
Related: About this forumSo Many Climate Delay Narratives, So Vanishingly Little Time . . . .
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The most influential narrative is what is whataboutism, which only about a third of our respondents subscribed to. This argument shifts responsibility for climate change elsewhere usually toward other nations while downplaying ones own emissions. Americans hear it constantly: Why should the United States cut emissions if China is building coal plants? Unless other countries act, why should we? In our survey, people who agreed with this line of argument were significantly less likely to support climate policies or demand government action. Its an argument that resonates politically because it taps into familiar themes of fairness and national competition. But it also misunderstands the nature of global cooperation. If every country waits for someone else to act first, no one moves.
No Sticks, Just Carrots
Another powerful narrative insists that climate policy must rely only on voluntary action what can be described as no sticks, just carrots. Subsidies for clean energy? Fine. But regulations, bans, or carbon taxes? Off the table. This framing is politically convenient because it allows leaders to appear supportive of climate goals while avoiding the policies most likely to reduce emissions. But it also undermines support for the kinds of measures that actually work from carbon pricing and emissions standards to restrictions on fossil fuels.
A third potent narrative exploits genuine concerns about fairness. Many people worry that climate policies will raise energy prices or hurt working-class communities. These concerns are understandable and occasionally real, as badly designed policies can indeed impose unfair costs underscoring the importance of ensuring that the transition away from fossil fuels is fair and equitable. But when these concerns are used to block climate action entirely or strategically deployed to obstruct it, then they become another form of delay. In our study, framing climate policy primarily as a threat to social justice significantly reduced support for government climate action.
Under Donald Trumps first term, climate denial was still common. Today, it has been re-energized at the political level with figures in the current administration engaging with climate denial networks and rolling back environmental protections. At the same time, familiar delay tactics remain central: acknowledging climate change while shifting responsibility to others or downplaying the need for urgent action. The result is not a replacement of denial with delay, but a more dangerous combination of the two one that risks further entrenching resistance to meaningful climate policy. This helps explain why, even as most Americans now accept that climate change is real, many remain uncertain or divided over the policies needed to address it.
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https://www.desmog.com/2026/04/15/despite-trump-actions-the-most-dangerous-climate-argument-today-isnt-denial-its-delay/
NNadir
(38,231 posts)In 2025, , according to Carbon Brief, China was building 94.5 GW of new coal power plants.
This represents a 10 year high in new coal plant construction.
We need some pictures of floating solar cells along with a picture of a hydrogen bus with Chinese characters next to a big "H2 so we can pretend it's not happening.
thought crime
(1,658 posts)China's overall energy needs are growing. That is why they are building all kinds of new energy plants, including coal but investing heavily in solar & wind farms and even fission reactors. China appears to be committed to a transition to clean energy. Meanwhile, in the US, the current administration is at war with renewable energy, making some effort on nuclear energy driven in part by the need shore up a declining nuclear industry that supports "defense" (war) needs, while promoting fossil fuels like there's no tomorrow. Are you aligned with that?
Pessimistic naysaying against innovative development of hydrogen fueled engines, etc. and renewable energy itself isn't very helpful; it's defeatist. Is that the point?