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Eugene

(66,276 posts)
Sat May 3, 2025, 06:56 AM May 2025

Vance, Rubio blast Germany for labeling far-right party AfD as 'extremist'

Source: The Hill

Vance, Rubio blast Germany for labeling far-right party as ‘extremist’

by Filip Timotija - 05/02/25 8:29 PM ET

Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio blasted Germany’s government for labeling the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) party as an “extremist” political group.

“Germany just gave its spy agency new powers to surveil the opposition. That’s not democracy—it’s tyranny in disguise. What is truly extremist is not the popular AfD—which took second in the recent election—but rather the establishment’s deadly open border immigration policies that the AfD opposes,” Rubio said in a Friday post on social media platform X. “Germany should reverse course.”

Rubio’s condemnation came shortly after the German domestic spy agency designated AfD as an extremist entity that is a threat to democracy, permitting the government to bolster surveillance and oversight.

The designation, which was announced Friday, followed a 1,000-page report by the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution. The office conducted a three-year investigation into the entity, arguing that the political party is violating the “fundamental principles” of the constitution, including the rule of law, democratic principles and human rights.

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Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/international/5280643-vance-rubio-blast-germany-for-labeling-far-right-party-as-extremist/

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Vance, Rubio blast Germany for labeling far-right party AfD as 'extremist' (Original Post) Eugene May 2025 OP
They are... Lovie777 May 2025 #1
"....just gave its spy agency new powers to surveil the opposition." sinkingfeeling May 2025 #2
What a piss poor Sec. of State. Diplomacy anybody? Botany May 2025 #3
Exactly! - Their opinions mean NOTHING to the Quakerfriend May 2025 #12
Real diplomacy is done quietly. Botany May 2025 #14
To the typical... Mike Nelson May 2025 #4
After Hitler and Germany rebuilt - they understood what protections needed to exist to prevent it happening again Pachamama May 2025 #5
Yeah, there is currently no ability to designate domestic terrorists...nt Wounded Bear May 2025 #13
They are shamelessly saying this with a straight face Balatro May 2025 #6
From a government that sponsors a foreign torture gulag bronxiteforever May 2025 #7
Pretty sure NO ONE cares what the Sailingdiver May 2025 #8
This MAGAt "administration MLWR May 2025 #9
Like Germany JustAnotherGen May 2025 #10
On top of the obvious... 2naSalit May 2025 #11

sinkingfeeling

(56,247 posts)
2. "....just gave its spy agency new powers to surveil the opposition."
Sat May 3, 2025, 07:20 AM
May 2025

And exactly what the TSF Regime wants to do here.

Botany

(75,154 posts)
3. What a piss poor Sec. of State. Diplomacy anybody?
Sat May 3, 2025, 07:45 AM
May 2025

This is internal domestic issues in a foreign nation no matter what he thinks
he should have the brains that God gave a goose to not speak about it.

Botany

(75,154 posts)
14. Real diplomacy is done quietly.
Sat May 3, 2025, 10:39 AM
May 2025

That is why Secs. of State Clinton, Kerry, and Blinken* were so good they understood
that diplomatic negotiations done correctly are done by adults with very little publicity.


* Blinken had it tough with Israel, Russia, Ukraine, and those Russian friendly republicans
in Congress who actively worked to hurt Ukraine’s war against the Russian invasion of its
lands and its crimes against the Ukrainian People.

Mike Nelson

(10,716 posts)
4. To the typical...
Sat May 3, 2025, 07:50 AM
May 2025

... Trumpster, they are mainstream. Here, Democrats, Judges, and even "never Trumpers," who oppose the Dear Leader are "extreme" and "left-wing lunatics."

Pachamama

(17,430 posts)
5. After Hitler and Germany rebuilt - they understood what protections needed to exist to prevent it happening again
Sat May 3, 2025, 08:19 AM
May 2025

The German Constitution is not perfect but it has this power to designate extremist groups for a very important reason.

After America (hopefully) survives MAGA and Trumpism and emerges from the suffering and carnage - the future American Constitution will need to have these protections too so Trumpism never rears its hateful dangerous head again.

 

Balatro

(51 posts)
6. They are shamelessly saying this with a straight face
Sat May 3, 2025, 08:35 AM
May 2025

as they go after ActBlue and anyone who opposes them with the full force of government extortion and sham investigation.

bronxiteforever

(10,733 posts)
7. From a government that sponsors a foreign torture gulag
Sat May 3, 2025, 08:51 AM
May 2025

and believes it is legal and moral to send its own citizens there I don’t think Vance and Rubio have any moral authority to say anything.

If you proclaim you are a Christian to the world and used to tweet daily Bible verses but personally support and encourage the forced deportation of a child with stage 4 cancer , I am pretty sure your action make your words meaningless.

MLWR

(500 posts)
9. This MAGAt "administration
Sat May 3, 2025, 08:55 AM
May 2025

needs to butt the fuck out of foreign nations' internal, domestic affairs. Regardless of what they might want or think*, they are not the ruler or emperor of the entire world.

2naSalit

(97,662 posts)
11. On top of the obvious...
Sat May 3, 2025, 09:13 AM
May 2025

They are also afraid that the enhanced surveillance of the afd might expose their participation or leonskum's or someone else they need to protect.

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