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Eugene

(66,216 posts)
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:20 AM Monday

Resignation and betrayal: What handing Donbas to Putin would mean for Ukraine

Source: BBC

Resignation and betrayal: What handing Donbas to Putin would mean for Ukraine

17 August 2025

Joel Gunter
Reporting from Kyiv

Days before meeting Vladimir Putin in Alaska, Donald Trump referred to what he called "land swaps" as a condition for peace.

For Ukrainians, it was a confusing turn of phrase. What land was to be swapped? Was Ukraine to be offered part of Russia, in exchange for the land Russia had taken by force?

As Volodymyr Zelensky prepares to travel to Washington on Monday to meet Trump, there is likely no "swap" element to the US president's thinking.

Instead, he is reportedly planning to press Zelensky to surrender the entirety of the eastern Ukrainian regions of Donetsk and Luhansk in return for Russia freezing the rest of the front line – a proposal put forward by Putin in Alaska.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgv1pdkll8o

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Resignation and betrayal: What handing Donbas to Putin would mean for Ukraine (Original Post) Eugene Monday OP
Not surprising JustAnotherGen Monday #1
Putin is not going to stop for the complete take over all of Ukraine.............. Lovie777 Monday #2
Sure, Hitler will stop attacking and invading other lands once he's given Austria and Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia. Timeflyer Monday #3
Putin will not be satisfied until he has every square inch of Ukraine CanonRay Monday #4

JustAnotherGen

(36,686 posts)
1. Not surprising
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:25 AM
Monday

It's Hitler and Chamberlain all over again.

If Russia is not told to take its collective ass back home now - then they won't stop at Ukraine.

I hate Putin as mush as I hate that demon's lap dog.

Lovie777

(19,807 posts)
2. Putin is not going to stop for the complete take over all of Ukraine..............
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 07:38 AM
Monday

even shithole knows this..................

but shithole is beholden to Putin.

Timeflyer

(3,349 posts)
3. Sure, Hitler will stop attacking and invading other lands once he's given Austria and Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia.
Mon Aug 18, 2025, 08:09 AM
Monday
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