Israel/Palestine
Related: About this forum"Arab ministers condemn Israel 'ban' on planned West Bank visit"
This is the headline from an article from the Saudi news site "ALARABIYA" citing sourcing from AFP in Amman. The foreign ministers of 5 Arab countries had planned on visiting Abbas in Ramallah as noted:
"The ministers condemned Israels decision to ban the delegations visit to Ramallah (on Sunday) to meet with the president of the State of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas, the Jordanian foreign ministry said."
Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz is one of the main radical right wing fanatics in the Netanyahu government and as has been the case for a very long time he advocates for more illegal settlements in the West Bank and this week Israel approved 22 more. He is quoted here in the article:
"During a visit to one of the new settlement sites on Friday, Defense Minister Israel Katz vowed to build a Jewish Israeli state in the Palestinian territory.
Taking aim at foreign countries that would recognize a Palestinian state on paper, he added: The paper will be thrown into the trash bin of history, and the State of Israel will flourish and prosper.
So much for the false front about wanting to get along with the neighboring countries in the region. The article notes:
"In June, Saudi Arabia and France are to co-chair an international conference at UN headquarters meant to resurrect the two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict."
So the announcement of the new settlements by Israel may be seen in the light of that and the rhetoric against any sort of solution will likely keep escalating. In any scenario however the tight control of access to the West Bank to see what is really going on along with media access will remain tightly controlled by the radical right wing government of Netanyahu.
https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2025/05/31/arab-ministers-condemn-israel-ban-on-planned-west-bank-visit-jordan

Beastly Boy
(12,558 posts)What did they expect, an honorary citizenship?
moniss
(7,385 posts)Turkey (recognition 1949), Egypt (recognition 1979), Jordan (1994), UAE (2020) and the delegation included the foreign ministers from Saudi Arabia and Qatar along with the Secretary General of the Arab League. I think that they expected to be able to exercise their performance of their offices and visit a territory with an official legal status as being under international jurisdiction.
Beastly Boy
(12,558 posts)The objection was over "Israels decision to ban the delegations visit to Ramallah (on Sunday) to meet with the president of the State of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas,
Obviously, the five ministers voicing their objection did so on behalf of the delegation. Even if a single country represented in that delegation does not recognize Israel, no objections referring to a "delegation" have any standing.
moniss
(7,385 posts)Beastly Boy
(12,558 posts)It was five members of the delegation representing their respective government within the delegation. Five people putting their names under one statement. Their mission was to represent the interests of their respective governments.Three of those people represented the states that don't recognize Israel.
moniss
(7,385 posts)A delegation is typically thought of as a group of people who are designated to carry a task or tasks. It can be one time or an ongoing thing. It doesn't matter that 3 of them haven't recognized Israel. They were not going to Israel as near as I understand they would come in from Jordan. In any case it was stupid on Netanyahu's part to do this since just recently Abbas put forth the proposal for all of the camps in Lebanon and Syria to disarm. A smart man would have realized that much of what he was complaining about was being put forward for a solution and so allowing a small amount of breathing room would be seen by the Europeans etc. as being willing to work toward that disarmament. But instead he plays the horse's backside, like always, and gives credence to those who say he is out to completely take over the West Bank and to force more Palestinians to leave.
As far as the camps in Lebanon and Syria it also gives credence to those who say that a voluntary disarmament is not what Netanyahu wants. People feel he wants to do it by force with casualties. Force and destruction are all he knows and he and Smotrich, Ben-Givr etc. are doing massive long term damage to Israel and tying the label of rogue state to Israel for many decades to come. They may achieve their aims of expansion etc. but the world will not forget how it was done. Nor will any of that expansion bring peace to Israel. The future seeds of violence have been sown.
Beastly Boy
(12,558 posts)But apparently, some semantics are more equal than others.
AloeVera
(2,903 posts)Or peace with Egypt. Or the UAE and Bahrain's commitment to the Abraham accords.
Israel under Netanyahu is set on eliminating Palestinians from "The Land of Israel" - at any cost, even to Israel itself.
Crazy...
Beastly Boy
(12,558 posts)Is it a one-way appeasement of one party by another in the face of a provocation?
I can't seem to find it in a dictionary.
And, in the face of this provocation, how important is peace to Egypt? Or commitment to the Abraham accords to Bahrain?
For some crazy reason I thought normalization is a reciprocal process. You must forgive me, I am not that well-versed in newspeak.