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sabbat hunter

(7,012 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:18 PM Thursday

Shas decides to quit government, but is not leaving coalition or pushing for elections

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/shas-decided-to-quit-government-leaving-netanyahu-with-minority-coalition/

Bibi is now working with what is effectively a minority government. Shas no longer has any minister seats. I have to wonder if UTJ will follow suit.

How long can Bibi's government survive with this news?
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Shas decides to quit government, but is not leaving coalition or pushing for elections (Original Post) sabbat hunter Thursday OP
He is holding out for the summer recess Israeli Monday #1
didn't he have sabbat hunter Monday #2
Last time Israeli Tuesday #3
illnesses sabbat hunter Tuesday #5
Also from that thread Israeli Tuesday #4

sabbat hunter

(7,012 posts)
5. illnesses
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:41 AM
Tuesday

of convenience. Much like many mafia bosses here in the US when they went on trial.

Israeli

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4. Also from that thread
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 05:56 AM
Tuesday

my post number 6

"" I would put higher odds on Bibi finding a way out , its what he is an
expert at , probably by replacing Edelstein.""


From today : .......

Netanyahu's Unholy Grail: There's No One Israel's Prime Minister Won't Betray to Stay in Power

The prime minister didn't even bother to call Yuli Edelstein – the chairman of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee – to tell him he was being replaced. Netanyahu's subservience to the ultra-Orthodox is even more striking given their assertion that getting rid of the Edelstein, who opposes the Haredi draft-exemption law, won't bring them back in to the coalition.

The "intestinal infection" that attacked Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu around a day before his cross-examination was due to resume didn't stop his mad dash for the ultimate goal – arranging draft exemptions for 80,000 ultra-Orthodox men and thereby appeasing their political leaders and rabbis.

Yuli Edelstein's impending ouster as chairman of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee is an electoral and public terror attack that Netanyahu is committing against his own party, and against himself. That isn't because of Edelstein personally, but because his ouster is an effort to pass a draft-dodging law par excellence, which Edelstein has thwarted with praiseworthy determination.

Opposition to this contemptible, immoral legislation spans both political blocs. A huge majority of Israelis has expressed its view in poll after poll. But all Netanyahu cares about is staying in power for one more day, one more week, one more month. His political survival comes first; the country can burn.


For the unholy goal of passing the draft-dodging law, he is willing to betray the soldiers he is sending to fight and die. In the name of his survival, he fired former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and then replaced him with a puppet who embittered the life of former IDF Chief of Staff Herzl Halevi until Halevi broke and quit. But Yuli? He means nothing to him.

There's no red line he hasn't crossed, no depth he hasn't plumbed. No despicable deed is too small for him. And that's before we've even reached the supreme test – elections.

In his baseness, he didn't even bother to call Edelstein and tell him the game is over (after all, he's the one who offered Edelstein the job, as compensation for not making him a minister). Netanyahu is distancing himself from the whole thing. It's not him, it's his party's MKs who will meet on Tuesday to vote on the ouster. Maybe later we'll hear him say he didn't know about it because "I was sick."

His nauseating kowtowing to the ultra-Orthodox is even more noteworthy because they say that firing Edelstein won't bring them back to the governing coalition; only an actual draft-dodging bill and a majority to pass it will do that. They've sobered up and are sick of delays. Gallant and Halevi were kicked out, but no law came of that. Moreover, an ouster whose goal is to pass a law the Supreme Court is in any case expected to overturn will only increase the chances of it doing so.

Anyone who wants to know where Netanyahu is really headed should listen to United Torah Judaism Chairman Yitzchak Goldknopf. "The only bill we'll support is one with no [enlistment] targets, no sanctions, no nothing," he said. His colleagues speak less bluntly but mean the same thing.

And anyone who wants to know (as if we didn't already) how the ultra-Orthodox parties were convinced to support the government's "legal reform" should listen to UTJ activist Moti Babchik, to whom Goldknopf was once an aide at the Housing Ministry (really; that isn't a typo). Justice Minister Yariv Levin and Netanyahu "promised us the reform would give us the law, so we supported it," he said.
Netanyahu deceives people and leads them astray, but the ultra-Orthodox are telling the truth. "You'll commit suicide!" to pass the law, Babchik roared at him. And then he decided to commit suicide over Edelstein – but to oust him rather than to keep him.

But no matter how hard whichever MK is chosen to replace Edelstein tries, it's not at all certain there will be a Knesset majority for a law that would stick a knife in the back of conscripted combat soldiers, whose service has been automatically extended, and combat reservists, who are collapsing under the burden of fifth and sixth callup orders. Netanyahu wants to give the ultra-Orthodox a down payment in the form of Edelstein's head to show his seriousness, even though they keep telling him, privately and publicly, that there's no point.

There will be no massive protests like there were when Gallant was fired, but Edelstein was the address for all reservists' organizations from across the political and social spectrum. Rightist or leftist, secular or religious Zionist, all of them worked with him and pinned their hopes on him.

For them, he was the last remaining lever they could use to move this bloody governing coalition in the right direction. And for Israelis who do serve in the army, his ouster will be a major rupture. But it won't crack Netanyahu's wall of cynicism. In a few days, he'll give a speech somewhere, gush about our brave, heroic soldiers and promise that "together we will win!"


And speaking of down payments, someone who is seriously being talked about as Edelstein's successor, MK Hanoch Milwidsky, spoke in the Knesset last week about something or another. On Monday, a video emerged and everything became clear. This completely secular man sounded like the Gur Hasidic sect's spiritual leader.

"Devotion to our books, devotion to Jewish heritage, devotion to the Torah, that's what preserved the Jewish people over the years," he said. "I, as a Jew, will never lend a hand to harming the Torah world." He even added, "No soldier can help us if we shatter the Torah."

He knew he was the preferred candidate even before Edelstein knew he was on his way out. That is also one of the hallmarks of Netanyahu's modus operandi.

Adding to the disgust and nausea sane Israelis are feeling was National Missions Minister Orit Strock's latest gem. Responding to an interviewer's question, she expressed willingness to give up on saving the hostages if that were the price of a "decisive battle" in parts of the Gaza Strip where living hostages are being held. "It's possible," the messianic settler said with the nonchalance adopted by "believers" in the Knesset every time fears are voiced about the deaths of Israelis held in Gaza.

But had she been asked about evacuating a criminal West Bank settlement outpost, she would have started screaming. And then she and those like her get insulted when they are called things like "death eaters."

Source : Haaretz

Link : https://archive.md/a5wUK

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