Who are you kidding? It's both and it's making Israel a pariah nation whose PM has to be careful that his plane doesn't travel over non-aligned nation's air space when traveling so as not to risk arrest in case of a plane emergency landing that may lead to an arrest for genocide/war crimes/ethnc cleansing.

Guess the definition of genocide and war crimes depend on the person denying its existence is viewing the reality of starving Palestinians continually being gunned down by IDF troops as they gather for food aide is wearing rose-colored glasses.

There is no point me responding because it pretty much says exactly what my position is.

It's evident Netanyahu wants Gaza cleared of Palestinians, whether by killing them all by bomb strikes, troop gunfire, starvation or another Nakba...whatever it is, he wants them gone from the enclave.

That realty may nof be to the definition/liking of some, but it's what's going on.

If your position is the same as mine, you didn't make that very clear.

By comparing it to what we have historically called genocides and what we have called wars. By holding everyone to the same standard and not just singling Israel out for condemnation. To be clear, I don't support what is going on in Gaza right now. I think Israel should withdraw and swap prisoners. The war has gone on too long.

Some examples that come to mind of genocides:

My grandfather was from Poland. In Poland, over 2.5M Jews were killed. About 90% of the population. The total for the holocaust was 6M and 35% of the total population of Jews in the world and most of those left were in the US. Hilter basically decimated any Jew he could get to. That doesn't even include the other people that Hitler didn't like. That doesn't even include other civilians that died in the actually fighting of WWII, malnutrition, disease, etc. 6M was just straight up putting them in camps and executing Jews. Comparing other people to Hilter just diminishes the atrocities he committed.

The Armenian Genocide was somewhere between 664,000 and 1.2M killed.

Rwandan Genocide was 500K to 800K.

What the US did to the native Americans was probably both ethnic cleansing and genocide.


Some examples that come to mind of wars:

Syrian Civil War was 200K-300K of civilians.

Yemen Civil War, 90K children died from starvation alone

US post 9/11 adventures, we killed 400K civilians and caused massive malnutrition in children in those war zones.

how about when it is ongoing?

Read the article. The author articulates why he thinks it isn't a genocide.

There are far too many parts of the definition of genocide being ticked off by Israel in Gaza.

As to promoting antisemitism, the actions of the state of Israel are the greatest drivers of that.
Some people horrified at the carnage in Gaza will say Jew when they mean Israel, and the Nazis are waiting for those people with open arms.

Mouthpieces for Israel such as yourself, your paper, and most of the Western press, have ensured that the genocide, though televised, continues to be denied or ignored by still far too many.

Talk about blinding us to a real genocide unfolding...

I suspect the usual suspects trotted out Stephens to respond to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/15/opinion/israel-gaza-holocaust-genocide-palestinians.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XE8.cWEd.pnyuFpNwdv5F&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

https://archive.is/mVnaY

When even the NYT dares to run an opinion piece by a genocide scholar calling it a genocide - it's for damn sure a genocide.

The article you mention is discussed here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220490481

Read both articles. Understand the perspectives.

Read what the ICJ actually said: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3g9g63jl17o