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Related: About this forumHamas raising new demands after failing to respond to Israel's, Israeli official tells 'Post'
Hostage, ceasefire deal mediators refused to pass on Hamas's response to Israel's proposed deal on Tuesday, saying that it was not a serious answer, two sources familiar with the details told the Post.
At a meeting held Tuesday in Doha between senior Hamas officials and senior Qatari and Egyptian representatives, Hamas did present a response to the framework, but the mediators told them, This is not a serious response. Go back and draft a new one.
Hamas has backtracked on several issues that were already agreed upon, including humanitarian matters, an Israeli official told the Post. According to Hamas's Tuesday response, they are now demanding that all humanitarian aid enter Gaza exclusively through the United Nations, despite previous agreements stating that aid during the days of the deal will be delivered by entities unaffiliated with either Israel or Hamas. The official added that Hamas has also reversed its position on key understandings related to the deployment of Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip during the proposed 60-day ceasefire period, as well as on the number of Palestinian terrorists to be released in the deal.
During the tense meeting on Tuesday, the mediators made it clear to Hamas leaders that if you dont return with a serious response, your problem will be with us - the mediators, according to a source familiar with the details of the meeting.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862011At a meeting held Tuesday in Doha between senior Hamas officials and senior Qatari and Egyptian representatives, Hamas did present a response to the framework, but the mediators told them, This is not a serious response. Go back and draft a new one.
Hamas has backtracked on several issues that were already agreed upon, including humanitarian matters, an Israeli official told the Post. According to Hamas's Tuesday response, they are now demanding that all humanitarian aid enter Gaza exclusively through the United Nations, despite previous agreements stating that aid during the days of the deal will be delivered by entities unaffiliated with either Israel or Hamas. The official added that Hamas has also reversed its position on key understandings related to the deployment of Israeli forces in the Gaza Strip during the proposed 60-day ceasefire period, as well as on the number of Palestinian terrorists to be released in the deal.
During the tense meeting on Tuesday, the mediators made it clear to Hamas leaders that if you dont return with a serious response, your problem will be with us - the mediators, according to a source familiar with the details of the meeting.
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Hamas raising new demands after failing to respond to Israel's, Israeli official tells 'Post' (Original Post)
Beastly Boy
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WaPo reported that Hamas revenue has dried up now that they can't confiscate, price gouge, and tax humanitarian aid.
lapucelle
Wednesday
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Is the claim that Trump's Palestinian American mediator/envoy is the unnamed Israeli official
lapucelle
Wednesday
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There are ethical rules for a journalist's use of unnamed (anonymous) sources.
lapucelle
Wednesday
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lapucelle
(20,380 posts)1. WaPo reported that Hamas revenue has dried up now that they can't confiscate, price gouge, and tax humanitarian aid.
According to WaPo, Hamas had people on the inside at the UN warehouses.
Hamas facing financial and administrative crisis as revenue dries up
Hamas profited especially off the aid that had cost them nothing but whose prices they hike up, said a Gazan contractor who has worked at Gazas border crossings during the war.
Over nearly two years, he said, he saw Hamas routinely collect 20,000 shekels (about $6,000) from local merchants, threatening to confiscate their trucks if they did not pay. He recalled that civil servants for the Hamas-led government said several times that they would kill him or call him a collaborator with Israel if he did not cooperate with their demands to divert aid. He said he refused. But he added that he knew at least two aid truck drivers who he said were killed by Hamas for refusing to pay.
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Hamas sees aid as its most important currency, said a man from Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, who helps manage the distribution of aid. He said that while most of the population had to scrape for water and food, people affiliated with Hamas had been gifted boxes of aid meant for wider distribution.
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One of the reasons that Hamas is pushing for a return to the old system is that they have guys in all of the warehouses, said a Western official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the news media. The presence of employees of the Gaza government allows Hamas to regulate and monitor market activities, as well as tax or seize some of the supplies at times, said a high-level Israeli official.
Hamas profited especially off the aid that had cost them nothing but whose prices they hike up, said a Gazan contractor who has worked at Gazas border crossings during the war.
Over nearly two years, he said, he saw Hamas routinely collect 20,000 shekels (about $6,000) from local merchants, threatening to confiscate their trucks if they did not pay. He recalled that civil servants for the Hamas-led government said several times that they would kill him or call him a collaborator with Israel if he did not cooperate with their demands to divert aid. He said he refused. But he added that he knew at least two aid truck drivers who he said were killed by Hamas for refusing to pay.
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Hamas sees aid as its most important currency, said a man from Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, who helps manage the distribution of aid. He said that while most of the population had to scrape for water and food, people affiliated with Hamas had been gifted boxes of aid meant for wider distribution.
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One of the reasons that Hamas is pushing for a return to the old system is that they have guys in all of the warehouses, said a Western official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the news media. The presence of employees of the Gaza government allows Hamas to regulate and monitor market activities, as well as tax or seize some of the supplies at times, said a high-level Israeli official.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/07/21/hamas-gaza-war-financial-crisis/
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lapucelle
(20,380 posts)4. The Jerusalem Post cites an unnamed Israeli official as the source.
Hamas claims that the terror group handed its response to the Israeli ceasefire proposal to mediators, Hamas's official news agency SAFA reported on Thursday morning.
This follows an Israeli official telling The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday that Hamas has yet to deliver an official response to the Israeli proposal that was submitted a week ago and is now raising new demands on issues that had already been resolved.
The hostage-ceasefire deal mediators refused to relay Hamass response to Israels proposed deal on Tuesday, saying it was not a serious answer, two people familiar with the matter told the Post.
At a meeting with representatives from Qatar and Egypt in Doha on Tuesday, Hamas officials responded to the framework. This is not a serious response, the mediators told them, according to the informed sources. Go back and draft a new one.
This follows an Israeli official telling The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday that Hamas has yet to deliver an official response to the Israeli proposal that was submitted a week ago and is now raising new demands on issues that had already been resolved.
The hostage-ceasefire deal mediators refused to relay Hamass response to Israels proposed deal on Tuesday, saying it was not a serious answer, two people familiar with the matter told the Post.
At a meeting with representatives from Qatar and Egypt in Doha on Tuesday, Hamas officials responded to the framework. This is not a serious response, the mediators told them, according to the informed sources. Go back and draft a new one.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862011
lapucelle
(20,380 posts)5. Is the claim that Trump's Palestinian American mediator/envoy is the unnamed Israeli official
cited by the Jerusalem Post?
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Ken Dayenu This message was self-deleted by its author.
lapucelle
(20,380 posts)7. There are ethical rules for a journalist's use of unnamed (anonymous) sources.
APs Statement of News Values and Principles lays out the rules. Anonymous material may be used only if:
- The material is information and not opinion or speculation, and is vital to the news report.
- The information is not available except under the conditions of anonymity imposed by the source.
- The source is reliable, and in a position to have accurate information.
- The material is information and not opinion or speculation, and is vital to the news report.
- The information is not available except under the conditions of anonymity imposed by the source.
- The source is reliable, and in a position to have accurate information.
https://www.ap.org/the-definitive-source/behind-the-news/when-is-it-ok-to-use-anonymous-sources/
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Ken Dayenu This message was self-deleted by its author.