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David__77

(24,353 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 11:07 AM Sunday

3 IDF soldiers dismissed and jailed for refusing to return to Gaza fighting

Three IDF soldiers serving in the Nahal Infantry Brigade have been dismissed from combat duty and jailed for insubordination, the military says.

The case was first reported by the Kan public broadcaster and later confirmed by the IDF.

According to Kan, four soldiers in Nahal’s 931st Battalion were dismissed from combat for refusing to enter Gaza after several rounds of fighting in the Strip.

Three were sentenced and will serve seven to 12 days in jail, while the fourth has not yet been sentenced.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/3-idf-soldiers-dismissed-and-jailed-for-refusing-to-return-to-gaza-fighting/

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3 IDF soldiers dismissed and jailed for refusing to return to Gaza fighting (Original Post) David__77 Sunday OP
Unfortunately these three heroes will be called self-hating jews by the resident Likudniks on DU. Crowman2009 Sunday #1
They are not the only ones Israeli Monday #2
And there are also those who refuse to serve in the first place RockCreek Tuesday #3

Crowman2009

(3,185 posts)
1. Unfortunately these three heroes will be called self-hating jews by the resident Likudniks on DU.
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 11:51 AM
Sunday

How dare they refuse to kill Palestinian civilians who are by default Hamas.

Israeli

(4,430 posts)
2. They are not the only ones
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 04:29 AM
Monday
The Israeli army is facing its biggest refusal crisis in decades

Over 100,000 Israelis have reportedly stopped showing up for reserve duty. While their reasons differ, the scale demonstrates the war’s waning legitimacy.

By
Meron Rapoport
April 11, 2025

No one can state precise numbers. No political party or leader calls for it explicitly. But anyone who has spent time at anti-government protests or on Hebrew-language social media in recent weeks knows it to be true: it is becoming increasingly legitimate to refuse to report for military service in Israel — and not only among the radical left.

In the lead-up to the war, talk of refusal — or more precisely, “ceasing to volunteer” for the reserves — had become a significant feature of the mass protests against the Israeli government’s judicial overhaul. At the height of those protests, in July 2023, over 1,000 pilots and Air Force personnel declared that they would stop showing up for duty unless the legislation was halted, leading to warnings from senior military officials and the head of the Shin Bet that the judicial overhaul endangered national security.

The Israeli right continues to argue to this day that those refusal threats not only encouraged Hamas to attack Israel but also weakened the army. But in truth, all the threats disappeared into the ether on October 7, with the protesters overwhelmingly and enthusiastically volunteering to enlist.

For 18 months, the vast majority of Israel’s Jewish population has rallied around the flag in support of the onslaught on Gaza. But particularly after the government decided to collapse the ceasefire last month, cracks have started to appear.

In recent weeks, the media has reported a significant decline in soldiers showing up to reserve duty. Although the exact numbers are a closely guarded secret, the army informed Defense Minister Israel Katz in mid-March that the attendance rate stood at 80 percent, compared to around 120 percent immediately after October 7. According to Kan, Israel’s national broadcaster, that number was a fudge: the true rate is closer to 60 percent. Other reports speak of attendance rates of 50 percent or lower, with some reserve units resorting to trying to recruit soldiers via social media.

“Refusal comes in waves, and this is the biggest wave since the First Lebanon War in 1982,” Ishai Menuchin, one of the leaders of the refuser movement Yesh Gvul (“There is a Limit”) which was founded during that war, told +972.

Like conscription into the regular forces at age 18, it is compulsory for Israelis to serve in the reserves when summoned until the age of 40 (though this can vary depending on rank and unit). During wartime, the army is heavily dependent on these forces.

At the start of the war, the army stated that it had recruited around 295,000 reservists on top of the roughly 100,000 soldiers in regular service. If reports about 50-60 percent attendance in the reserves are accurate, that means over 100,000 people have stopped showing up for reserve duty. “That’s a huge number,” Menuchin noted. “It means the government will have a problem continuing the war.”

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https://www.972mag.com/israeli-army-refusal-crisis-gaza-war/#:~:text=Over%20100%2C000%20Israelis%20have%20reportedly%20stopped%20showing%20up,%28Ayal%20Margolin%2FFlash90%29%20No%20one%20can%20state%20precise%20numbers.

and why ......

Three Israeli Army Reservists Explain Why They Refuse to Continue Serving in Gaza

Source : Haaretz

Link : https://archive.md/wUt7m#selection-209.0-209.81


RockCreek

(1,059 posts)
3. And there are also those who refuse to serve in the first place
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:17 PM
Tuesday

And those who have medical and other exemptions who choose not to do National Service (which could be done voluntarily in some of these situations).
The children of some of my friends from high school are in both categories.
I don't know if I would have made the choices that they did, especially right after October 7th. Nevertheless, I applaud their bravery.

They are born Israelis. They do have dual citizenship to fall back on (through their parents), and also speak fluent English. This refysal to serve is not as "risky" for their futures as for those without such benefits. Yet they are doing this in a currently extremely divided country.

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