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David__77

(24,444 posts)
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 10:59 AM Monday

Poll: 62% of Israelis say "there are no innocent people in Gaza"

A new poll by the Accord Center has found that 62% of Israelis believe that “there are no innocent people in Gaza,” reflecting widespread hardline attitudes nearly a year into the ongoing conflict.

The survey, conducted August 11–13, shows only a slight decline from May, when 64% of respondents expressed the same view. Among Israeli Jews, agreement rises to 76%, with 42% saying they “strongly agree.” By contrast, a majority of opposition voters, 52% reject the statement.



https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel-at-war/artc-poll-62-of-israelis-say-there-are-no-innocent-people-in-gaza

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Exp

(516 posts)
5. Who has been invading who? Let's start with the Partition of 1947 and Nakba. I'm sure every Israeli national would be
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:20 AM
Monday

fine with being invaded by an occupying force, even through a U.N. agreement, right?

Mosby

(18,931 posts)
8. In 1948 Israel was attacked by multiple Arab countries
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 12:16 PM
Monday

The goal was genocide.

The Arabs have started like 15 wars against Israel.

Google AI:

AI Overview


Since its establishment in 1948, Israel has been involved in several major wars initiated by Arab states and armed groups. The most prominent were the full-scale wars launched by coalitions of Arab states in 1948, 1967 (perceived threat of attack), and 1973.

Major wars initiated by Arab forces

1. 1948 Arab-Israeli War (War of Independence / Al-Nakba)
Context: Following the end of the British Mandate and the UN's partition plan, Israel declared its independence on May 14, 1948.

Action: The next day, a coalition of five Arab countries—Egypt, Transjordan (Jordan), Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon—invaded Israel with the stated aim of preventing the formation of the Jewish state.

Outcome: The war ended with armistice agreements in 1949. Israel secured its independence and expanded its borders, while hundreds of thousands of Palestinians became refugees.

2. Six-Day War (1967)
Context: A period of escalating tensions led to the Six-Day War. In the weeks prior, Egypt ordered UN peacekeepers out of the Sinai Peninsula, remilitarized the area, and blockaded the Straits of Tiran, which Israel considered an act of war.
Action: Surrounded by hostile forces, Israel launched a preemptive strike on June 5, 1967, targeting the Egyptian and Syrian air forces.

Outcome: Israel achieved a decisive victory, capturing the Sinai Peninsula and Gaza Strip from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria.

3. Yom Kippur War (1973)
Context: Seeking to reclaim territories lost in 1967, Egypt and Syria prepared a coordinated offensive.

Action: On October 6, 1973, Egyptian and Syrian forces launched a surprise attack on Yom Kippur, the holiest day in Judaism. The offensive targeted Israeli positions in the Sinai Peninsula and Golan Heights.

Outcome: While suffering heavy initial losses, Israel successfully repelled the invasion. The war ultimately paved the way for the Camp David Accords, which led to a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt.
Other significant conflicts

War of Attrition (1967–1970): Initiated by Egypt, this was a limited, three-year conflict characterized by sustained military pressure on Israeli positions along the Suez Canal.

First Lebanon War (1982): Following escalating Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) attacks from southern Lebanon, Israel invaded the country to expel the PLO.
Second Lebanon War (2006): In 2006, Hezbollah launched a cross-border raid into Israel, which led to a month of fighting.
Israel-Hamas War (2023–present): This conflict began in October 2023 after Hamas-led forces from the Gaza Strip launched a large-scale attack on Israel.

Hamas has attacked Israel 5 times now, Hezbo attacked the Jewish state 3 times. Iran has attacked Israel twice and Yemen has attacked tge Jewish state twice.

Eko

(9,632 posts)
9. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War was in response to Israel taking land and creating a nation.
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 07:05 PM
Monday

What did you expect them to do? Not fight back?

patphil

(8,173 posts)
3. So, indirectly, they appear to support ethnic cleansing or possibly even genocide?
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:14 AM
Monday

Using their logic, you could also state that there aren't any innocent people in Israel.

Both viewpoints are inherently wrong; based on the fear and hatred that has consumed so many lives in the Middle East for going on 80 years now.
Until that belief is rejected, there will be nothing but pain, suffering, death, and destruction there.

Exp

(516 posts)
4. Well of course! Israeli comments in hindsight is a bunch of BS. NEVER FORGET the invasions of family farms, the
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:14 AM
Monday

occupation of a people, making war and invading ME neighbors.

There's a Chinese proverb: An argumentive man has no good neighbors.

gab13by13

(29,493 posts)
6. I call bullshit on the poll
Mon Aug 25, 2025, 11:26 AM
Monday

Didn't 500,000 Israelis just come out and protest the war? Is this poll a right wing counter to that enormous protest?

Israeli

(4,465 posts)
11. Its total bullshit
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 07:01 AM
Yesterday

and here is why :

How i24News Turned pro-Netanyahu to Secure Broadcast License

Haaretz investigation finds a host of puzzling staff departures, banned guests and a flagship show taken off the air for being 'leftist' in efforts to weaken criticism of the prime minister

In a complex overlooking the Jaffa Port, a group of professionals is laboring over the way Israel will be presented to the world. They are not from the government’s public diplomacy department or from some anti-BDS group: They work at the international i24News television channel, the Israeli answer to Al Jazeera. The company broadcasts worldwide 24/7 in English, French and Arabic, and although it likes to say it is beamed into millions of household, it is suffering from a lack of viewers.

Over a year ago, against the backdrop of discouraging viewership data, i24News decided to focus on two goals: Receiving a license to broadcast in English on Israeli television and establishing a local Hebrew news channel. One tactic apparently used to achieve these objectives was to flatter Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

A Haaretz investigation reveals how the independence of the channel's news department was gelded, step by step – whether by being forbidden to invite certain guests to the studio, through a host of puzzling staff departures and the cancellation of a program deemed “leftist,” to muting criticism of Netanyahu and even to providing him with a prominent platform.

“It’s not even a propaganda channel for Israel,” said one former executive. “It’s a pro-Bibi channel.”

( its a long article and I doubt most of you would understand but here is some highlights )

It’s hard to know how many people in Israel watch i24News or who they are, but it seems that one of its loyal followers is Yair Netanyahu, who incessantly criticizes the channel and its staff. In April, after he raged on Twitter about an anti-Semitic editorial cartoon depicting his father as a guide dog leading around a blind Donald Trump, i24News presenter and investigative reporter Eylon Levy responded by sharing another anti-Semitic cartoon – this one posted by Yair, deriding leftist Jewish billionaire George Soros.


This is why i24News content had never aired on Israeli TV networks, and the reason Drahi said new legislation was needed. The first hurdle – permitting the channel to broadcast in English on Hot – was overcome easily thanks to privately initiated and target-specific legislation, spearheaded by former MK Nachman Shai (Zionist Union), which was passed by the Knesset despite the opposition of the Justice Ministry.


The Netanyahu family reacted by saying that it was not surprising that “instead of demanding answers and fully exploring the tough questions that arise from the investigation of the prime minister and others, questions that raise suspicions of criminal activity that have no place in a democratic country – Haaretz rushes to forcibly foist new and baseless accusations upon the Netanyahu family.
"This story is full of lies about the family, meant to perpetuate the negative image you try so hard to attach to it. Regardless of the baseless claims you make, the last time we checked it was permitted in Israel to express an opinion and to voice criticism – even on the part of Mrs. Netanyahu.”


Source : Haaretz
link : https://archive.md/SL13s#selection-3345.0-3353.297

You believe it if you choose to David__77 but you are just spreading Right wing
propaganda and what Bibi wants the world to believe .







Israeli

(4,465 posts)
12. I dont trust any polls
Tue Aug 26, 2025, 07:20 AM
Yesterday

they are so easily manipulated but there is this

Poll: 70% of Israelis don’t trust government, including a third of coalition voters

Majority support a deal to return all the hostages and end war, including Netanyahu’s supporters; majority also believes budget will hurt their personal finances

By ToI Staff
29 March 2025

A majority of Israelis say that they do not trust the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, according to a poll aired Friday on Channel 12, with most of the public also opposed to policy on the hostages and disapproving of the budget passed this week.

Asked if they trust the current Netanyahu government, 70% of respondents said they do not, compared to 27% who said they do. Even among coalition voters, just 51% said they trust the government, compared to 36% who said they do not.

When asked if they support a deal to return all the hostages in return for an end to the war, 69% said they do, compared with 21% who said they oppose it and 10% who said they don’t know. Among coalition voters, 54% said they support a deal, compared to 32% who oppose it. Among opposition voters, 86% said they support the deal, compared with 9% who said they do not.

Continued @ https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-70-of-israelis-dont-trust-government-including-almost-half-of-coalition-voters/

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