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NNadir

(36,427 posts)
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 11:31 AM Aug 4

An interesting trap when applying to adopt cats.

My wife and I lost our cat a while back, - she passed at age 18- and after much consideration about our grief, we decided to adopt another one from a shelter.

We have never done this, adopted from a shelter. For all the cats we've had, we either took them in from a relative who couldn't keep them or took in feral strays.

One feral stray, a beautiful polydactal cat tested positive for toxoplasmosis when my wife was pregnant and we had to give him away to strangers. The other feral we had didn't last too long. She was struck by a car when she went out and paralyzed. We had to put her down.

We had to fill out an application form at the shelter and among the questions they asked was whether we wanted a declawed cat. We answered no. We're OK with our cats destroying furniture and we've learned to use furniture covers to slow their process. We don't approve of declawing.

Another question asked if we wanted an indoor or outdoor cat. We said indoor since we have understood that outdoor cats don't live very long in our neighborhood, and we lost an outdoor cat years ago.

They accepted our application and gave us a mother and son cat since I wanted a mature cat and my wife wanted a kitten.

We had to sign a contract to adopt and in the contract it said that we agree to never declaw the cats and, also, to keep them as indoor cats.

It turns out that answering the question about declawing positively or indicating we wanted an outdoor cat, they would have refused to let us adopt. They were trick questions designed to screen us as suitable. (We also had to give them nonfamilial references; they actually called both of them.)

I was surprised at that. I will say there were a lot of people adopting cats when we were there, literally a line out the door.

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An interesting trap when applying to adopt cats. (Original Post) NNadir Aug 4 OP
Maybe not so much a trap as way to select for responsible, human cat people Wild blueberry Aug 4 #1
I think the shelter is absolutely doing the right thing to assure that the cats they have been responsible for... 3catwoman3 Aug 4 #2
Congrats on your newly adopted family members! SheltieLover Aug 4 #3
I'm okay with this Metaphorical Aug 4 #4
Calico, eh? piddyprints Aug 4 #7
Yup Metaphorical Aug 6 #20
I work w/a TNR/adopt group and we ask the same questions. It's standard. We do NOT want them outdoors CurtEastPoint Aug 4 #5
I found that out when I adopted my cats in 2011. MIButterfly Aug 4 #6
The shelter named the mother Keke and my wife is changing the spelling to Kiki. NNadir Aug 4 #9
Welcome Kiki and Harry! MIButterfly Aug 4 #11
I thought they were asking KT2000 Aug 4 #8
Our application was even more extensive. piddyprints Aug 4 #10
They had those questions too as well as the cats' vaccination... NNadir Aug 4 #12
The thing that really surprised me piddyprints Aug 4 #13
Our late cat, the one who died at 18, had that thyroid issue. NNadir Aug 4 #14
Exactly my point. piddyprints Aug 4 #15
So were you able to adopt? NNadir Aug 4 #17
Yes. piddyprints Aug 4 #18
That is very typical Nigrum Cattus Aug 4 #16
Search for "barn cat" or "working cat" if you want/need an outdoor cat. They are mostly non-housebroken ferals ... eppur_se_muova Aug 4 #19
I'd be worried that if they had declawed cats to adopt tonekat Aug 13 #21
Good point. Perhaps if we'd answered "yes" they might have discussed it with us further. As it is, we ended up... NNadir Aug 14 #22

Wild blueberry

(7,849 posts)
1. Maybe not so much a trap as way to select for responsible, human cat people
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 11:37 AM
Aug 4

Good for you on all counts.

3catwoman3

(27,521 posts)
2. I think the shelter is absolutely doing the right thing to assure that the cats they have been responsible for...
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 11:49 AM
Aug 4

...are going to homes where the new guardians (Jackson Galaxy's term, which I really like) will care for them safely and lovingly.

Metaphorical

(2,509 posts)
4. I'm okay with this
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:18 PM
Aug 4

We have had two cats - a female Russian Blue who unfortunately died of Cancer at 14, and a feisty female Calico Shorthair who thinks she's a dog. Both were rescues, and we too faced the questions you asked. Declawing cats is cruel to them, depriving them of a critical part of their anatomy, and in the Pacific Northwest, outdoor cats are prey for coyotes, stray dogs, and the occasional cougar or bear, not to mention opening them up to all kinds of nasty human-induced pathogens. As we've moved around, we've also been very good about keeping licensing and medical records up-to-date. Being a pet guardian is an important responsibility.

piddyprints

(15,008 posts)
7. Calico, eh?
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:23 PM
Aug 4

You reminded me of an app my daughter has that will try to guess the breed of your cat when you feed it a picture. We have a feisty long-haired calico. When we fed her picture to the app, the answer came back, “We don’t think what you have is a cat. It’s a dog.”

Metaphorical

(2,509 posts)
20. Yup
Wed Aug 6, 2025, 10:48 PM
Aug 6

Pumpkin (my eldest daughter is a Nightmare Before Christmas fan) has a very high-pitched meow. She was also brought up around three large dogs. Every so often she barks and howls, about five octaves up. It's the cutest thing.

CurtEastPoint

(19,626 posts)
5. I work w/a TNR/adopt group and we ask the same questions. It's standard. We do NOT want them outdoors
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:19 PM
Aug 4

and we do NOT want them declawed.

Thanks for adopting.

MIButterfly

(1,132 posts)
6. I found that out when I adopted my cats in 2011.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:22 PM
Aug 4

Last edited Mon Aug 4, 2025, 01:49 PM - Edit history (1)

They didn't ask for references, but they did ask if I intended to de-claw them and if they were to be kept indoors or allowed outside. I wanted to keep them inside. I never had a cat de-clawed before so I went on the internet to do some research about it. The more I read, the more horrified I became. When I signed the adoption papers, I, too, had to promise I wouldn't have them de-clawed. No problem.

They have scratching posts; a kitty condo; and various cardboard boxes to scratch on and pretty much scratch where they're supposed to (most of the time!).

Anyway, congratulations on your new kitties! What are their names?

NNadir

(36,427 posts)
9. The shelter named the mother Keke and my wife is changing the spelling to Kiki.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:27 PM
Aug 4

I wanted to name the kitten Franklin after FDR, but my wife disapproved so we named him Harry after Harry S. Truman.

The shelter had a name for him as well but it made no sense to me. He's Harry from here on out.

piddyprints

(15,008 posts)
10. Our application was even more extensive.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:31 PM
Aug 4

They asked for our vet’s name and number and then called the vet to see if our current cats were up to date on their vaccinations. They were not, as they’re indoor cats and we don’t think it’s necessary or safe to vaccinate them every year (an opinion backed up by a veterinarian friend of ours). We were flatly denied for adoption. Never mind that the average lifespan of our cats is 17 years, with the latest one dying at 21, and our vet has commented that we must be doing something right. But we wanted the kittens, so we took our two girls in and had them vaccinated (a mistake for one of them, but I won’t go into that now). Then they let us take the kittens.

The foster mom agreed with me that some of the conditions for adoption seem a bit arbitrary, but we definitely agree that they should never be declawed and should be kept indoors. It is strange how those questions were asked, though.

NNadir

(36,427 posts)
12. They had those questions too as well as the cats' vaccination...
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:36 PM
Aug 4

...and medical records. We already had a vet for our last cat -they were extremely compassionate when our last cat died.

We had to agree to take both to a vet for check ups. (The mother is obese.)

piddyprints

(15,008 posts)
13. The thing that really surprised me
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:44 PM
Aug 4

Was that I had already mentioned that one of them is hyperthyroid and has to go every 6 months to get checked. I mean… doesn’t that indicate that we get them checked? They didn’t even verify that with the vet’s office.

NNadir

(36,427 posts)
14. Our late cat, the one who died at 18, had that thyroid issue.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 12:52 PM
Aug 4

It was pretty expensive to get her checked and the meds were not cheap. It cost us close to $2000 to keep her going that last year, between vet, tests and meds.

piddyprints

(15,008 posts)
15. Exactly my point.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 01:04 PM
Aug 4

It takes dedicated pet parents to deal with such issues.

But that's not the test of whether you should be allowed to adopt a new one. At least this rescue let us have a dialog with them. The other one simply tossed out our application. You would never know we have a surplus of adoptable cats and in this area.

piddyprints

(15,008 posts)
18. Yes.
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 02:01 PM
Aug 4

But we had to get the older girls vaccinated. 10-year-old is fine, but the 5-year-old seems to have had some adverse reactions. She is slowly improving.

Meanwhile, the kittens are growing like weeds. They love their older sisters and are really nice additions to the household.

Nigrum Cattus

(931 posts)
16. That is very typical
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 01:23 PM
Aug 4

There are many reasons. I know someone who lives in Hawaii
and their local shelter started a drop-off enclosure for off
hours. They did this because many people said they couldn't
get to the shelter in time. After many weeks of not getting
any dogs the shelter put up a camera to see what was going
on. Turns out people were dropping off dogs, but other people
were taking those dogs before they opened. Many treat pets
as disposable.

eppur_se_muova

(39,768 posts)
19. Search for "barn cat" or "working cat" if you want/need an outdoor cat. They are mostly non-housebroken ferals ...
Mon Aug 4, 2025, 02:26 PM
Aug 4

who wouldn't make the sort of potty-trained, cuddly lap cats most cat servants want. But they can adapt to life on the farm and help control rodent pests. Better than leaving them feral, 'trap, neuter, and release', or choosing euthanasia. If you trap a feral who is too wild and unfriendly, try to steer it into such a program. Ask local vets to help find one.

Neutering is usually an absolute prerequisite for such programs.

tonekat

(2,314 posts)
21. I'd be worried that if they had declawed cats to adopt
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 08:47 PM
Aug 13

They wouldn't get adopted if someone answered no. I would never declaw a cat, but if there was an unfortunate victim up for adoption it deserves a home.

NNadir

(36,427 posts)
22. Good point. Perhaps if we'd answered "yes" they might have discussed it with us further. As it is, we ended up...
Thu Aug 14, 2025, 06:33 AM
Aug 14

...adopting a mother and her single kitten. The mother is sweet, affectionate and sedate, but that kitten, well, he's a wild one, fun, but wild.

He does his fair share of scratching and biting, nothing serious, but he's drawn a little blood on my wife's feet. We think we've broken him of that habit, but my wife wears clogs around the house.

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