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NNadir

(35,663 posts)
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:02 PM 11 hrs ago

I have started reading Nigel Hamilton's trilogy on FDR as Commander in Chief during the Second World War.

The first book in the trilogy is FDR at War 1941-1942, "The Mantle of Command."

I must say that it is a pleasure to read. In the Prolog, Hamilton, a naturalized American of British origins, remarks - and I think this is a valid observation based on my experience - that while many authors have written on the military sense of Abraham Lincoln as "Commander in Chief," very few of Roosevelt's biographers do the same.

It is, thus far, a magnificent read, showing how FDR managed the war with great brilliance and intelligence, putting people like Winston Churchill and Douglas MacArthur in their place without them understand that they were being charmed into compliance unless a heavy hand was demanded, which it sometimes was. FDR used both Churchill and MacArthur not because they were wise military leaders - they were not - but as tools of the nebulous "spirit" of the war.

As a British born writer, I am very much impressed with his convincing realistic assessment of Churchill, the Imperialist and fabulist, who did, for all his faults, have his "finest hour" at the beginning of the war.

I am now at the part where Colonel Eisenhower - who had served with MacArthur as his subordinate and who despised him - began his rise to become the great political general he would become.

I have just read the part where Roosevelt bucks up President Quezon of the Philippines to convince him not to negotiate a surrender to the Japanese.

It is insightful writing. I love history books that cause one to "think anew." This is one of them.

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I have started reading Nigel Hamilton's trilogy on FDR as Commander in Chief during the Second World War. (Original Post) NNadir 11 hrs ago OP
Interesting, thank you! Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #1
No, clearly not. He points out that Churchill was forced to recognize his subordinate role in the war once... NNadir 11 hrs ago #2
Churchill may have been OK with this to some extent. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #3
I've read Hamilton's trilogy, and posted rec a couple times over these years. bucolic_frolic 11 hrs ago #4
Thanks for the post. mobeau69 11 hrs ago #5
thanks for the recommendation! mike_c 10 hrs ago #6
Ty for the rec! SheltieLover 9 hrs ago #7

Irish_Dem

(68,774 posts)
1. Interesting, thank you!
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:05 PM
11 hrs ago

So the British author did not see Churchill on the same level or caliber as FDR?

NNadir

(35,663 posts)
2. No, clearly not. He points out that Churchill was forced to recognize his subordinate role in the war once...
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:07 PM
11 hrs ago

...the United States entered it.

Irish_Dem

(68,774 posts)
3. Churchill may have been OK with this to some extent.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:29 PM
11 hrs ago

When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor Churchill knew Hitler would be defeated.
And UK saved from invasion.

bucolic_frolic

(49,994 posts)
4. I've read Hamilton's trilogy, and posted rec a couple times over these years.
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:37 PM
11 hrs ago

James McGregor Burns tackled FDR at war about 1971. “Roosevelt: The Soldier of Freedom 1940-1945"

I've also read:
Franklin D. Roosevelt: A Political Life - Robert Dallek, 2017
FDR at War Trilogy - Nigel Hamilton, 2014, 2016, 2019
        The Mantle of Command: FDR at War, 1941-1942
        Commander in Chief: FDR's Battle with Churchill, 1943
        War and Peace: FDR's Final Odyssey, D-Day to Yalta, 1943-1945
FDR - Jean Edward Smith, 2007
Eisenhower in War and Peace - Jean Edward Smith, 2012

All highly recommended. Dallek's is pure politics and fantastic, but I can't say any of them are anything less. Smith's is the easiest read, he is known for obscure and interesting material. There have of course been many others including Republican attempts to discredit.

mike_c

(36,537 posts)
6. thanks for the recommendation!
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 05:59 PM
10 hrs ago

I'm in the middle of Shirer. My main interest is in the cold war, but I figured I'd work my way through the whole 20th century to better understand it's origins. I was born in 1955 so much of the century was a blank page for me. I keep being drawn back into the world wars. Gawd the twentieth century was violent!

SheltieLover

(66,955 posts)
7. Ty for the rec!
Sun Apr 27, 2025, 06:56 PM
9 hrs ago

I love FDR & always saw Joe as a modern day FDR, or as close to one as we could get.

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