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mahatmakanejeeves

(66,373 posts)
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:49 PM Aug 13

Will the Supreme Court revisit its ruling on same-sex marriage?

SCOTUS FOCUS
Will the Supreme Court revisit its ruling on same-sex marriage?

By Amy Howe
on Aug 13, 2025

In 2015, shortly after the Supreme Court recognized a constitutional right to same-sex marriage in Obergefell v. Hodges, a local county clerk from Kentucky made national headlines when she refused on religious grounds to issue a marriage license to a gay couple, David Moore and David Ermold. That clerk, Kim Davis, is back in the news again this summer, this time because she has asked the justices to overturn their 2015 decision. Although, as a statistical matter, Davis may face tough odds on convincing the Supreme Court to grant review, the real question is whether there are four votes to revisit Obergefell (and five to overrule it).

In 2015, Davis was the clerk of Rowan County, Kentucky. Her job description included issuing licenses – such as marriage licenses – to county residents. After the Supreme Court’s decision in Obergefell, Kentucky’s governor at the time, Steve Beshear, sent a letter to the clerks in all of the state’s counties, directing them to “license and recognize the marriages of same-sex couples.”

Although a county attorney told Davis that she would be required to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, Davis opted instead to stop issuing marriage licenses to anyone – gay or straight. While this moratorium was in effect, Davis refused to issue a marriage license to Moore and Ermold. She told the couple that she was acting “under God’s authority” and that they could get a marriage license in a different county.

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Earlier this year, the 6th Circuit rejected Davis’ appeal. It reasoned that Davis is protected by the First Amendment when she is a private citizen, but she was acting on behalf of the government when she denied Moore and Ermold’s marriage license – an action that was not protected by the First Amendment. The court of appeals acknowledged that in Obergefell the Supreme Court observed that “many people ‘deem same-sex marriage to be wrong’ based on ‘religious or philosophical premises.’” “But those opposed to same-sex marriage,” the court of appeals wrote, “do not have a right to transform their ‘personal opposition’ into ‘enacted law and public policy.’” “The Bill of Rights,” the court stated, “would serve little purpose if it could be freely ignored whenever an official’s conscience so dictates.”

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Recommended Citation: Amy Howe, Will the Supreme Court revisit its ruling on same-sex marriage?, SCOTUSblog (Aug. 13, 2025, 1:19 PM), https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/will-the-supreme-court-revisit-its-ruling-on-same-sex-marriage/
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Will the Supreme Court revisit its ruling on same-sex marriage? (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Aug 13 OP
The Sudden Panic That SCOTUS Might Overturn Marriage Equality Misses the Real Threat mahatmakanejeeves Aug 13 #1
So... GiqueCee Aug 13 #3
Unfortunately, I think the current right wing controlled USSC will revisit and overturn same sex marriage... wcmagumba Aug 13 #2
I scanned over the article on Slate, and I disagree with their conclusions, slightlv Aug 13 #4

mahatmakanejeeves

(66,373 posts)
1. The Sudden Panic That SCOTUS Might Overturn Marriage Equality Misses the Real Threat
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:56 PM
Aug 13
JURISPRUDENCE
The Sudden Panic That SCOTUS Might Overturn Marriage Equality Misses the Real Threat

BY MARK JOSEPH STERN
AUG 13, 2025v2:56 PM


Kim Davis and the Supreme Court building.
Kim Davis has filed a petition. Photo illustration by Slate. Photos by Ida Mae Astute/Disney General Entertainment Content via Getty Images and Andrew Harnik/Getty Images.

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Over the past few days, a long-shot request for the Supreme Court to overturn marriage equality has snowballed into a major news story. Influential media outlets have covered it closely, and prominent politicians have seized upon it to warn that same-sex marriage is still under attack. It is certainly true that no one should take this hard-won right for granted. But any panic about this particular challenge—brought by former Kentucky clerk Kim Davis—is unwarranted. There is essentially no chance that the court will entertain Davis’ plea to abolish gay people’s constitutional right to marry; the odds round down to zero. And although apprehension about the justices’ hostility toward LGBTQ+ equality is justified, marriage does not yet appear to be in their crosshairs.

The most important thing to understand about Davis’ appeal is that it has a small likelihood of being taken up in the first place. Her lawyers have merely asked the court to consider it, filing what’s known as a petition for certiorari. (They did so in July, and it’s unclear why the request is garnering so much attention now.) SCOTUS receives about 8,000 of these petitions every year and grants just a tiny number of them—in recent years, fewer than 70. Anyone can ask the court to hear their appeal. And while it is technically accurate to say that the justices will consider her request, that does not mean they will resolve it on the merits. It simply indicates that they will have the opportunity to take it up, an opportunity that they are unlikely to accept.

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GiqueCee

(2,705 posts)
3. So...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 09:12 PM
Aug 13

... does anyone really believe that the most corrupt Supreme Court in the entire history of this country will suddenly do the right thing and tell Kim Davis to stuff it? The Sinister Six are rotten down to their DNA.

wcmagumba

(4,615 posts)
2. Unfortunately, I think the current right wing controlled USSC will revisit and overturn same sex marriage...
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 07:58 PM
Aug 13

The RWNJ thuglicans always always want to be up in other peoples lives and business. They really sux...imo

slightlv

(6,405 posts)
4. I scanned over the article on Slate, and I disagree with their conclusions,
Wed Aug 13, 2025, 10:36 PM
Aug 13

based on what this court has already done. Here's the paragraph I picked out, tho there are pieces of others that I take exception to:

SCOTUS can take up Davis’ appeal only if four of the justices vote to hear it. And it’s difficult to envision four members of the current court agreeing to do so given the open-and-shut failure of Davis’ main argument. But even if they did, the court would still have no grounds to consider her shoehorned assault on Obergefell itself. Reevaluating that precedent is entirely unnecessary to resolve the real dispute. And as the appeals court pointed out, Davis’ lawyers actually forfeited their argument against Obergefell by declining to raise it in the district court. Their failure to preserve this issue gives SCOTUS one more reason to ignore it.

Davis doesn't think she should pay the $100,000 fine. That's her case, in a nutshell. She doesn't even call for a reversal of gay marriage. *However* this court has "shoehorned" side rulings using stupid cases just like this. They disregard the reason they took up the case, supposedly, and instead issue a ruling on a related aspect that no one wanted heard. Look at the way they took away women's bodily autonomy for a closely aligned example.

Slate thinks this court has too much on its plate to accomplish given the time, resources, political will, etc., to accomplish it. So they have to prioritize. And gay marriage is just not "up there" on their list. I beg to differ.
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