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doc03

(38,138 posts)
1. Interesting, I have a 44 cap and ball black powder revolver. Compared to my 9mm Ruger LCP
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jul 13

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pistol the black powder pistol has very little recoil. I used to have 50 cal Haukins I am surprised that they can
hit 1800 feet.

mitch96

(15,333 posts)
2. " I used to have 50 cal Hawkins" When I was a kid I had one also.. .After the third shot, it got so fouled
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:21 PM
Jul 13

with black powder you did not know where the heck the lead ball would go.
Great fun!!
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doc03

(38,138 posts)
3. I bought my Ruger Old Army 44 cal. in
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:34 PM
Jul 13

stainless steel in 1979. I haven't shot it much because it is a pain to clean. The Hawken got fouled pretty quick but it wasn't that hard to clean. I haven't gone hunting in about 25 years
so I got rid of most of my guns.

mitch96

(15,333 posts)
4. It just amazed me how anybody with a smooth bore musket could hit anything unless up close... I remember
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:50 PM
Monday

watching a civil war documentary and one of the things that stuck in my head was that the troops with the smooth bore muskets were told to aim for the feet and knees of the opposing troops... That way they would hit SOMETHING and not just shoot over the heads of the opposing troops..
And then came the rifled bore and Minie ball... nasty stuff....
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yagotme

(4,112 posts)
5. And, to top it all off, those smoothbores were usually BIG.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:19 PM
Thursday

.69 or better. The rifle ball flattening was one reason wounds were so grievous in those days. Hitting a femur meant destroying it, leading to amputation, at best. Smoothbores were generally an 80 yard, at best, weapon. For aiming at a point target. Volley fire, a little longer. That's the "European" method, everybody line up at 100 yards or so, and shoot volleys at each other, and bayonet charge after a few volleys. The air would be pretty thick with smoke by then, making any aiming pointless.

yagotme

(4,112 posts)
6. I used Pyrodex in my BP guns, a substitute, fouled less, but still fouled.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:21 PM
Thursday

Got about 20 shots out of my .45 rifle before I couldn't get a load down it anymore. Still corrosive.

melm00se

(5,111 posts)
8. BP firearms have a completely different
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:23 PM
11 hrs ago

recoil impulse than smokeless (modern) powder firearms.

A modern round with smokeless powder feels more of punch than black powder's shove.

Both black powder and its substitutes produce potassium salts which are hydrophilic and corrosive.

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