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70sEraVet

(4,394 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 12:23 PM Feb 28

A White man's awakening

On this last day of Black History Month, I feel moved to share my own realization of how Blacks were purposely left out of local histories.
I am a white man, raised in the North, who moved to a rural county in Tennessee only 5 years ago. I wound up becoming the caretaker for what I believe is a 140 year-old Black cemetery. There are very few engraved stone markers, especially for the older graves. I know from the research I have done, and from speaking with some of the older Black residents of the town, that many of the individuals buried there were former slaves (a nearby iron mill had nearly 400 slaves in 1860).
My research is mostly confined to going through death certificates to try to identify who is buried in this cemetery -- but the death certificates often neglect to state the place of burial. If it were a cemetery of Whites, I could look up obituaries in local newspapers. But, prior to the 1970's, the local newspapers completely ignored the Black citizens, unless it was to report a murder or robbery committed BY a Black. Larger cities in the South had Black-owned newspapers, but for small towns, the Black population was completely invisible as far as their newspapers were concerned.
While Black History Month was started to try to educate our society about the contributions of African Americans to the Sciences and the Arts, no number of History Months will give Black families the histories of their ancestors that were stolen from them.

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A White man's awakening (Original Post) 70sEraVet Feb 28 OP
Good Work!!!! Karadeniz Feb 28 #1
Thank you for posting this. jrthin Feb 28 #2
Thank you for doing this. LoisB Feb 28 #3
So many things we whites never even think of, or that we were never taught, like obits in the paper. CrispyQ Feb 28 #4
Unfortunately, this is "somewhat" true for Blacks. Dan Feb 28 #5
Just curious, Dan -- 70sEraVet Feb 28 #6
Small Town Dan Feb 28 #10
My town is VERY small -- population 300 70sEraVet Feb 28 #22
Nice ! Dan Feb 28 #27
My apologies, Dan, for maybe sticking my nose where it doesn't belong.... 70sEraVet Feb 28 #28
No harm, no foul. Dan Feb 28 #29
Just wow JMCKUSICK Feb 28 #7
Thanks much. 70sEraVet Feb 28 #9
I've tried tracing the slaves that were named in old family wills chowder66 Feb 28 #8
Wow! 70sEraVet Feb 28 #11
I don't think it said "in perpetuity" exactly but instead "forever" which is the same thing. chowder66 Feb 28 #12
He probably deserved worse. 70sEraVet Feb 28 #16
Seems everyone was pretty happy with the outcome. chowder66 Feb 28 #17
...... 70sEraVet Feb 28 #25
Those cemeteries are all over the South in particular. I visited SC plantations live love laugh Feb 28 #13
I look forward to your OP! 70sEraVet Feb 28 #15
"Those cemeteries are all over the South in particular. " BumRushDaShow Feb 28 #21
Great story on the efforts to preserve the burial grounds in Manhattan! 70sEraVet Feb 28 #24
Here is some of that will..... chowder66 Feb 28 #14
Thank you for that surfered Feb 28 #18
Thank you for your work and for your post. NNadir Feb 28 #19
An excellent work on documentation of slaves concerns Thomas Jefferson's African American family. NNadir Feb 28 #20
It's vital to preserve Freedmen's Towns and Black Cemeteries Comrade Citizen Feb 28 #23
Thank you DaBronx Feb 28 #26

CrispyQ

(39,278 posts)
4. So many things we whites never even think of, or that we were never taught, like obits in the paper.
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 12:39 PM
Feb 28

A death in our community was something we just took for granted would be announced & it was, for us. I've conversed with a few repubs over the years & institutional racism is a concept they resist.

Dan

(4,461 posts)
5. Unfortunately, this is "somewhat" true for Blacks.
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 01:20 PM
Feb 28

I was raised by my Grandmother who was born in 1891. My Grandmother’s mother apparently lived with my Grandmother and helped her raise her children that were born between 1911-1930s. Great-Grandmother had been a slave (there are stories there) and there were stories that my Grandmother and my aunts/uncles would share about America. Some of the stories were in the forms of jokes/humor/tales of America that imparted a lesson. But one thing is particular you learned was that their stories were our history that had not been told in history books.

Since we also attended Segregated Schools - the history was reinforced by our Teachers. One day a month when the teachers were paid, they would spend the last half of that school day - talking about white people. What they said versus what they did, and what was in like in the past that white people didn’t talk about what they did.

As I’ve said a few times before in the past, my older brothers and sisters knew nothing of our antidotal history because they were raised in the North and their history was different than mine. There was both good and bad from being raised in the environment that I was, but looking back - I would not change things one bit.

Interesting times.

70sEraVet

(4,394 posts)
6. Just curious, Dan --
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 01:48 PM
Feb 28

We're you raised in a small town, or in a city? I ask, because if it was a small town, I have some pictures of a schoolhouse that may interest you.

Dan

(4,461 posts)
10. Small Town
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:17 PM
Feb 28

Population around 2200 then 2800 now.
As I recall - approximately 600 Native Americans,
400+ Afro-Americans,
1,200 Whites.

70sEraVet

(4,394 posts)
22. My town is VERY small -- population 300
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 03:33 PM
Feb 28

Once, the A.A. population was 30 percent. But over the years many blacks left. Today there is only a small handful of families -- mostly just the older ones left.
Our county was apparently one of the last to desegregate the schools. There is a one-room schoolhouse still on the property of the cemetery that was used for grades 1-8 until 1965. The county never provided a high school for Black students.
Myself and a couple of neighbors have been working at restoring the schoolhouse. Thought you might like to see it.

Dan

(4,461 posts)
27. Nice !
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 04:37 PM
Feb 28

Our School House was built on land that my family donated to the community back in the thirties or forties…who remembers. Once they integrated the school system the property became city property and now (from what I have been told) is used to store boats or something.

Thanks for sharing the picture and history.

70sEraVet

(4,394 posts)
28. My apologies, Dan, for maybe sticking my nose where it doesn't belong....
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 08:44 PM
Feb 28

but these schools should be protected, and should serve the purpose for which they were built -- to EDUCATE.
After Desegregation, it seems that many towns in the South were quick to demolish those old schools, perhaps as an attempt to erase an uncomfortable past. But of the schools that have survived, many are receiving protection and funding as buildings of historical significance.
One quick way to gain federal protection for an African American school building, is to check to see if it was built with funding from the Rosenwald Foundation. My understanding is, any school that was built with Rosenwald funds is entitled to be listed on the National Register of Historic Places.
Here is the link to the Fisk University database for the Rosenwald Foundation.
https://fisk.libguides.com/c.php?g=1057119&p=7710823
On that page, you will find a link to the 'Rosenwald School Database', where you can find if a Rosenwald school was built in a specific location.
Good luck, Dan!!!!

Dan

(4,461 posts)
29. No harm, no foul.
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 09:09 PM
Feb 28

Thanks for sharing the information.

Lots of issues associated with the past in the small town where I lived.

But thanks.

JMCKUSICK

(1,517 posts)
7. Just wow
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:04 PM
Feb 28

It's like thousands of people never existed. Thank you so much for telling this story and for bringing them back to life for their families.
Thank you for your miracle.

70sEraVet

(4,394 posts)
9. Thanks much.
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:14 PM
Feb 28

It's a great feeling to contact someone to let them know that I found the grave of one of their grandparents.

chowder66

(10,241 posts)
8. I've tried tracing the slaves that were named in old family wills
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:13 PM
Feb 28

I only had luck with one family and sent it to them when I found them at Ancestry.com.
Unfortunately, I haven't had time to trace some others which I have recently found but will try when time allows.

It's very difficult to a) read the wills b) acknowledge it was your bloodline c) some of the wording just shocks me.

The last will I found basically willed the slaves and their "issue" to their children and their heirs... and the heirs heirs into perpetuity.
It hit me hard to read that these people thought slavery would last forever and they would own their offspring until the end of time.

I think that will haunt me until I am no more.

70sEraVet

(4,394 posts)
11. Wow!
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:26 PM
Feb 28

I hadn't seen that reference to 'perpetuity' in a will regarding slaves.
One obstacle I keep finding in trying to trace a family after slavery, is that immediately after the war they will use the last name of their enslaver, but will later choose their OWN last name.

chowder66

(10,241 posts)
12. I don't think it said "in perpetuity" exactly but instead "forever" which is the same thing.
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:31 PM
Feb 28

You are right that they did take the last names and some changed them, some did not. It's all so sad to read about.

I do have one interesting history where a slave woman escaped after poisoning the dinner she made for the family (this was a gggg uncle).
He died but the rest survived. She ran to the other side of the river and years later she returned and was given a house on the property.

Makes you wonder about that Uncle.

live love laugh

(15,037 posts)
13. Those cemeteries are all over the South in particular. I visited SC plantations
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:43 PM
Feb 28

2 years ago and saw the same thing. I’ve seen it in Virginia where I was born. I think I will do an op and expand on this topic. Thank you 🙏🏽.

BumRushDaShow

(149,005 posts)
21. "Those cemeteries are all over the South in particular. "
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 03:31 PM
Feb 28

They are all over EVERYWHERE. North, South, East, West.

Black people could not be buried with white people. Segregated at birth, segregated in life, segregated at death.

There was a whole production in NYC to get one designated as a National Monument (better look at the National Park Service website for it it now before it is banned - a link on the below page has already been censored and removed) -

New York: African Burial Ground National Monument

For a century, from the 1690s to the 1790s, a small plot of land in Lower Manhattan became the final resting place for over 15,000 free and enslaved Africans. The burial ground was then lost under years of urban development and landfill, until workers rediscovered the burial ground in 1991 during an excavation of the land for a Federal Government office building. Excavations at the site revealed the remains of 419 Africans and over 500 individual artifacts. Considered one of the most important archeological finds of the 20th century, the African Burial Ground is of national significance because of what it can tell us about the lives of Africans and African Americans in an urban context. Both the deceased and their possessions help piece together a more complete history of New York City in the 17th and 18th centuries and what life was like for Africans in the city. The discoveries demonstrate the power of collaboration between anthropology, archaeology, and history.



(snip)


More: African Burial Ground





It took 15 years from discovery to fighting with GSA to finally completing and opening the Monument.





chowder66

(10,241 posts)
14. Here is some of that will.....
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 02:43 PM
Feb 28

I give and bequeath unto my son James W my negro man Jesse to him and his heirs forever.
I give and bequeath unto my son Beverly my negro woman Mary to him and his heirs forever.
I give and bequeath unto my son Elijah my negro girl named Peggy to him and his heirs forever.
I give and bequeath unto my beloved wife Nancy one negro woman named Sally also a negro girl named Caroline also my negro girl Martha to have and to hold and dispose of in any way she may think proper. I also will and bequeath to my wife Nancy three negro boys Charles, John and Bob also my negro woman Mehala and her child Jerry to hold during her natural life and after her death to be sold and the proceeds divided equally between all my children and their heirs.


Makes one's skin crawl reading that.

NNadir

(35,334 posts)
20. An excellent work on documentation of slaves concerns Thomas Jefferson's African American family.
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 03:27 PM
Feb 28

It's "The Hemingses of Monticello" by Anette Gordon Reed.

Comrade Citizen

(221 posts)
23. It's vital to preserve Freedmen's Towns and Black Cemeteries
Fri Feb 28, 2025, 03:40 PM
Feb 28

These historic places are being destroyed by gentrification and developers and at an alarming rate; I've seen it firsthand.

There is an unspoken knowledge in the south that Black People did and do all the work. They built everything you see, did all the farm work, did all the skilled trades, were and are the cooks, maids, and nannies for the white households.

They did all of this while raising their own families and building their own communities with parallel institutions (banks, schools, shops) and professions (doctors, lawyers, engineers).

There is a wealthy, advanced country built by people of African descent; It's called the United States of America.

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