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Religion

True Dough

(24,003 posts) Tue Oct 9, 2018, 12:12 AM Oct 2018

When you're staggering and ineffectual, blame the devil!

Beelzebub, you befuddling bastard!

Pope Francis on Sunday said that the devil is trying to divide and attack the Catholic Church, as the Vatican wrestles with a series of sexual abuse scandals amid accusations that Francis covered for priests accused of sexual misconduct.

Francis said the church should also be more aware of “its guilt, its mistakes and abuses.”

"[The church must be] saved from the attacks of the malign one, the great accuser and at the same time be made ever more aware of its guilt, its mistakes, and abuses committed in the present and the past," Francis said from his balcony in Rome, Reuters reports.

He implored Catholics worldwide to pray every day throughout October for the Church to prevail through the devil's assault.

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/410401-pope-says-devil-trying-to-divide-attack-the-catholic-church

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When you're staggering and ineffectual, blame the devil! (Original Post) True Dough Oct 2018 OP

Yes, all those priests were corrupted by the devil no doubt... uriel1972 Oct 2018 #1

And we are not supposed to have a problem with him edhopper Oct 2018 #2

They still think people can literally be possessed by a demon. trotsky Oct 2018 #4

Doesn't he believe in the literal God? Mariana Oct 2018 #6

So the Pope is a Bible edhopper Oct 2018 #9

The Bible is a big book. Mariana Oct 2018 #10

And he decided the Devil was real? edhopper Oct 2018 #11

In this, and other historical events, the Church was the evil. 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #3

Don't look now, Papa, but the call is coming from inside your house. MineralMan Oct 2018 #5

Is this a literal devil or a metaphoric devil? Voltaire2 Oct 2018 #7

There is usually a bit trying to have it both ways... uriel1972 Oct 2018 #8

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)

1. Yes, all those priests were corrupted by the devil no doubt...

Reply to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 04:45 AM

Oct 2018

Just to harm the Church. Nothing to do with the Cover-ups and the moving and promoting of those priests... absolutely nothing, I'm sure.

edhopper

(36,533 posts)

2. And we are not supposed to have a problem with him

Reply to True Dough (Original post)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 07:19 AM

Oct 2018

believing in the literal devil.
no metaphor here, Satan as an actual being.
Yeah, progressive Church there.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)

4. They still think people can literally be possessed by a demon.

Reply to edhopper (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:59 AM

Oct 2018

Welcome to the 14th century.

Mariana

(15,570 posts)

6. Doesn't he believe in the literal God?

Reply to edhopper (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 11:10 AM

Oct 2018

Believing in the literal God. No metaphor here, God as an actual being. I don't see much difference.

edhopper

(36,533 posts)

9. So the Pope is a Bible

Reply to Mariana (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 08:46 PM

Oct 2018

literalist?
you think he believes in Adam and Eve, Noah?

Mariana

(15,570 posts)

10. The Bible is a big book.

Reply to edhopper (Reply #9)

Tue Oct 9, 2018, 11:36 PM

Oct 2018

He probably picks and chooses which parts of it to literally believe, and which parts are "metaphors" or "allegories" or whatever. Just like every other Christian does.