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sprinkleeninow

(21,782 posts) Tue Nov 24, 2020, 04:49 AM Nov 2020

☦ Eastern Orthodoxy: How the Theotokos 'Saves' Us, Fr. Josiah Trenham

'How the Mother of God Saves Us'

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☦ Eastern Orthodoxy: How the Theotokos 'Saves' Us, Fr. Josiah Trenham (Original Post) sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 OP

No. We are saved by Christ, and not by Mary. n/t Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #1

Yes, by Christ. And in Orthodox 'soteriology', by Mary, because she said, "Yes, be it done unto me." sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #3

Mary may have "participated" in salvation by being the Theotokos Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2020 #7

TY RicROC Nov 2020 #2

Much of the Eastern Orthodox Faith is foreign to non-Orthodox. sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #4

I know more about Orthodoxy, than most. RicROC Nov 2020 #5

There is nothing such as the Paschal season. From start to finish. sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #6

Fortinbras Armstrong

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1. No. We are saved by Christ, and not by Mary. n/t

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Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:15 AM

Nov 2020

sprinkleeninow

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3. Yes, by Christ. And in Orthodox 'soteriology', by Mary, because she said, "Yes, be it done unto me."

Reply to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 03:28 PM

Nov 2020

In this talk, Fr. Trenham says just this. Do we 'worship' Mary on the same plane and as the same divinity as Jesus Christ? NO. We venerate her and honor her because of her 'saving' participation in bringing forth Christ, the Saviour of mankind.

Fortinbras Armstrong

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7. Mary may have "participated" in salvation by being the Theotokos

Reply to sprinkleeninow (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:48 AM

Nov 2020

However, we are saved by Christ and no one else.

RicROC

(1,248 posts)

2. TY

Reply to sprinkleeninow (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:30 AM

Nov 2020

Thank you for posting this and my introduction to Fr. Josiah. As a Lutheran I appreciate his clear explanations.

sprinkleeninow

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4. Much of the Eastern Orthodox Faith is foreign to non-Orthodox.

Reply to RicROC (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 03:35 PM

Nov 2020

Understandable, yet defensible, if one at minimum, is open to at least hear/read regarding the foundation/establishment of the Faith in 33 A.D.

Thank you for 'seeking'.

RicROC

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5. I know more about Orthodoxy, than most.

Reply to sprinkleeninow (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:39 PM

Nov 2020

In college many years ago my friend introduced me to the Russian Orthodox. Now he is the Bishop of Syracuse.

I've been to liturgy many times, although most times for Pascha.

sprinkleeninow

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6. There is nothing such as the Paschal season. From start to finish.

Reply to RicROC (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:00 PM

Nov 2020

Especially the midnight service of Pascha. I have partiality. 😊

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