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Richard D

(9,629 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 06:36 PM Feb 6

'2 million terrorists' in Gaza, released hostage tells family

“Dad, there are two million terrorists there, make no mistake. I sat with children aged 8 and 4 who were cursing ‘the Jews,'” Albag was cited as having told her father since being released as part of the truce deal.



Albag’s family has emphasized that while she and the three other female IDF hostages released on Saturday experienced “insane things that are hard to tell everything about” during their 15 months in Hamas captivity, they are afraid to speak due to the fact that 90 hostages have yet to be freed from Gaza.

Former hostage Mia Shem, who was released during the previous truce with Hamas in November 2023, told Israel’s Channel 13 News channel in an interview on Dec. 28, 2023, “Everyone there [in Gaza] is a terrorist.

“Entire families are under Hamas. I realized I was staying with a family. I started to ask myself, why am I in a family home? Why are there children here? Why is there a wife here?” Shem said. “I went through a Shoah.”

https://www.jns.org/2-million-terrorists-in-gaza-released-hostage-tells-family/

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'2 million terrorists' in Gaza, released hostage tells family (Original Post) Richard D Feb 6 OP
Something everybody already knew and were unwilling to admit. Frasier Balzov Feb 6 #1
Can we label the 8 and 4 year olds as terrorists ExciteBike66 Feb 6 #2
Yes JoseBalow Feb 6 #3
I once dressed my kid up as a pumpkin... ExciteBike66 Feb 6 #4
Children being deserving of death? I said nothing of the sort. JoseBalow Feb 6 #5
Good, you're not that far gone ExciteBike66 Feb 7 #6
Yet... Richard D Feb 7 #7
"Children were used" ExciteBike66 Feb 7 #8
Children were used... Richard D Feb 7 #9
Oh we agree on that. ExciteBike66 Feb 7 #10
So many questions . . . Richard D Feb 7 #11
The OP included the ages 8 and 4 ExciteBike66 Feb 7 #12
Would you agree . . . Richard D Feb 7 #14
Humans can really suck. twodogsbarking Feb 7 #13
I guess it's okay to displace and kill them then Astraea Feb 7 #15
Or maybe . . . Richard D Feb 8 #16

Frasier Balzov

(4,063 posts)
1. Something everybody already knew and were unwilling to admit.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 06:44 PM
Feb 6

Was what this hostage endured anti-Islamic behavior by heretics or merely an expression of Islamic values?

I assume she was not kidnapped and held hostage by Christian Palestinians.

Remind me again how the German people were de-nazified.


ExciteBike66

(2,694 posts)
2. Can we label the 8 and 4 year olds as terrorists
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 07:03 PM
Feb 6

If they don't have any clue what the heck they are talking about?

ExciteBike66

(2,694 posts)
4. I once dressed my kid up as a pumpkin...
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 08:55 PM
Feb 6

These children have no real independent concept of anything. They are programed by their parents and society. In our country, we do not even try them as adults, much less condemn them to death as terrorists...

Please tell me you are kidding about these young children being deserving of death.

JoseBalow

(6,993 posts)
5. Children being deserving of death? I said nothing of the sort.
Thu Feb 6, 2025, 09:07 PM
Feb 6

Don't put your words in my mouth.

ExciteBike66

(2,694 posts)
6. Good, you're not that far gone
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 05:52 AM
Feb 7

Why would you think calling them terrorists is a good idea, though? I mean, I think we can all agree that terrorists deserve to die, or at least be locked up for the rest of their lives, no?

Richard D

(9,629 posts)
7. Yet...
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 08:51 AM
Feb 7

Following the events of October 7, 2023, there have been reports of minors from Gaza participating in attacks against Israel. For instance, during the October 7 attacks, some Palestinian teenagers were documented assisting militants by locating residents and looting homes. In certain cases, children were used to enter houses through windows to open doors from the inside. Additionally, there were instances where children accompanied militants during attacks, sometimes armed and directed to execute Israelis.

ExciteBike66

(2,694 posts)
8. "Children were used"
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 09:54 AM
Feb 7

That is the operative part of your comment.

There is an open debate about treating teenagers as adults versus as kids. However, the OP concerned 4 and 8 year olds.

Richard D

(9,629 posts)
9. Children were used...
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 10:23 AM
Feb 7

... Is child abuse. In Gaza it's child abuse on a massive scale, built into the society.

What is the answer? Child protective custody? Removal of parental rights on a society level?

ExciteBike66

(2,694 posts)
10. Oh we agree on that.
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 12:17 PM
Feb 7

But if the child is being abused, we certainly can't call him a terrorist.

Richard D

(9,629 posts)
11. So many questions . . .
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 12:30 PM
Feb 7

. . . like, at what age does a child who is performing terrorist activities get to be called a terrorist? Like, if a 13-year-old agrees to strap on a bomb and board a bus to explode said bomb, killing dozens of civilians, what should they be called (other than Little Pieces).

Is a 17-year-old fighting for Hamas still a child? 16? 15? 14? Where is the line?

How about an early teenager who was trained in jihadi "summer camps (Terrorist training), and then goes on a stabbing rampage in Jerusalem? Still not a terrorist?

ExciteBike66

(2,694 posts)
12. The OP included the ages 8 and 4
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 12:48 PM
Feb 7

I think we can agree those are not terrorists.

Which means we can agree there are not 2 million terrorists in gaza.

Richard D

(9,629 posts)
14. Would you agree . . .
Fri Feb 7, 2025, 09:36 PM
Feb 7

. . . that young children who are being trained as terrorists should be removed from their families and environment and given protective custody with a child welfare organization and sent to foster homes? Or should they stay in an environment where they are being trained to be terrorists?

Richard D

(9,629 posts)
16. Or maybe . . .
Sat Feb 8, 2025, 06:03 PM
Feb 8

. . . it is to free them from their "open-air prison camp"? You'd think they would love the idea of leaving.

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